Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:55:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Gerdes <arete-AT-back.vims.edu>
Subject: Re: "don't forget the whip"





Ah yes, but who is going to use the whip and who is going to be whipped?


On Mon, 20 Feb 1995, Jim Elson wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 20 Feb 1995, Jeannie Marie Ridings wrote:
> > 
> > Another thought I will throw out regards the infamous "going to the woman 
> > be sure to bring the whip" passage.  I'm curious if anyone has thought 
> > about, or knows a reference to, any relation between this passage and the 
> > passage from the Phaedrus regarding the charioteer's whipping of the white 
> > and black stallions (good desires and bad desires).  I've sometimes 
> > thought that in the second Dancing song passage in Zarathustra (where 
> > woman-truth asks Zarathustra to not crack his whip) 
> > that Zarathustra needs the whip to curb his own passion for the veiled 
> > woman-truth, rather than to wield against her.
> 
> Very interesting.  I've almost run across another interesting thesis.
> (It was on another mailing list, but I don't recall the author.)  If 
> my memory is correct, at one time Alexander the Great had Aristole
> saddled and ridden around by a women with a whip.  I understand that
> an illustration was made of this which is well known to antiquarians.
> The thesis being that as a classical philologist, Nietzsche would have
> known of this.  Like your hypothesis, this would ask us to reconsider
> the misogynistic interpretation of this passage.
> 
> ===========================================================================> James L Elson:              |<o  When you stare into the abyss too long  o>|
> School of Arts & Humanities |<o       the abyss stares back into you.    o>|
> University of Texas-Dallas  |                  --Nietzsche--               |
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