Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 03:23:38 -0700 (MST) From: LEO MEEKS <lmeeks-AT-du.edu> Subject: Re: Timetable of death of God On Wed, 8 Feb 1995 WIDDER-AT-vax.lse.ac.uk wrote: >(some deleted stuff) > The death of God marks the point when this certainty is lost. At such a time, > one can still believe in God and even salvation, but it becomes much more a > matter of faith. Indeed, when the madman says that God is dead, he does not > say God's existence has been disproven. He is dead, rather, the moment his > existence turns upon faith, the moment his existence turns on the possibility > of human demonstration. >(more stuuf deleted) > Later, > > Nathan > widder-AT-vax.lse.ac.uk > Nathan, There is a modernism in your post that is somewhat troublesome: you seem to suppose the modernist version of its own advent -- whether with Weber, Marx, Hegel, or whomever -- that is it seems that modernism is founded upon the fall or collapse of a pre-modern (to be read Christendom) world and what is before becomes increasingly untenable. The problem is that the death of God does not fit neatly into that frame of time without radically covering up the coming into being of the death of god. i would suggest that when Luther penned the Heidelburg Disputation of 1518 as an attack upon scholasticism for not understanding precisely the suffering and death of god as the central core to the christian literary practise. i underscore this point on Luther to suggest that the death of god is something other than what many of nietzsche's reader's -- heidegger among them -- have taken it to be. The question remains: what is the death of god and how is one to write it? -leo ------------------
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