Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 17:32:20 -0700
From: nologos-AT-PrimeNet.Com (Sam Vagenas)
Subject: Re: Overcoming and Gianni Vattimo


At 10:39 PM 6/15/95 -0500, nietzsche-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu wrote:
>
>	Unfortunatly, I have never read Vattimo and therefore can only speak 
>to what you quoted.  It seems to me that his remark pertains more aptly to 
>Heidegger than to Nietzsche.  As Lyotard attempts to show, in "Heidegger and 
>the "jews,"" Heidegger, even after the `turning,' remains ensconced and 
>complicit with the Greek instalation - for all the `destruction of the history 
>of metaphysics,' - he remains in the metaphysical thought that the other is 
>being.  

Nietzsche, I believe, was much more aware of the contingency of 
>metaphysics than Heidegger, though he was able, at the same time, to 
>demonstate it's constituitive character in the formation of the most hegomonic 
>trends in the development of western thought and experience.  N's concepts of 
>`genealogy,' and `transvaluation,' certainly constitute an attempt "to propose 
>a means for the "critical overcoming" of it (ie;metaphysics),"

You make the case against Heidegger.  Heidegger does a fairly persuasive
assault on Nietzsche in his numerous attacks against NZ :  "Nietzsche speaks
of the destining of two millennia of Western history (The Word of Nietzsche)."  

I think both were aware of the tensions.   And, if you have ever read
Derrida, he spends half of his essay qualifying why his terms such as
"differance" and "writing" don't dump his philosophy into the trash heap of
Western metaphysics.  However, we have a hard time understanding
"differance" unless we juxtapose it with terms such as reification,
objectification, totalization, etc.  We also have a hard time understanding
exactly what Derrida means by "writing" until we juxtapose it against
Western phonocentrism and logocentrism.  

For all of their qualifications, the question is whether these postmodern
writers transcend transcendence.  



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