File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1995/nietzsche_Nov9.95, message 19

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:06:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Music, Nietzsche, Rhythm

I've thusfar avoided this rather fractious *discussion*, but
I feel moved (via the three bottles of wine my friend and I have
consummed): Nietzsche broke w/ Wagner for the simple reason that he
found Wagner to be pandering to the basest (sic?) impulses and needs
of the bourgeoisie.  And can anyone deny this?  No! (e.g., Parsifal).
IS Wagner nevertheless important as a musical inovator?  Yes.
Can I have this contradiction and still look at myself tomorrow
(i.e., if I can stand up straight enough???)?   Yes.  Still, I agree w/
Babette, Wagner was Led Zeplin for the 19th century--I mean, really,
did Wagner ever compose a *subtle* phrase? (btw, I love Siegfried's
funeral march....I once blew the windows out of my house in Cambridge on
it.)  *NO*!!!!!!  

Chris Devenney
Dept. of Comp. Lit.
SUNY at Buffalo

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