File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1995/nietzsche_Nov9.95, message 3


Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 08:49 CDT
Subject: Re: Myth of Syphilis


Well, "in the know" seems more Socratic than anything, including not knowing
(not not-knowing) about God, God's revenge/_ressen
tu. . ., etc., "those in the know seems very close to das man, "the `they'" in
Heidegger's precise sense.  See "On Redemption" in _Zarathustra_ also re
revenge against time, knowing, and so on.  The initiate, for Nietzsche, does not
have that sort of "knowledge", --but maybe it isn't worth belaboring.  Question
for this list in general:  May we think Nietzsche's notion of music as standing
in symbolic relation to primordial contradiction and pain and primordial unity
(_The Birth of Tragedy_), the Dionysian which is always already in withdrawal,
as a _meaning_ relation -- in terms of dissonance, harmony, and so on?  I'd like
to steer this question, if possible, towards the problem of lyric poetry, the
rupture between poetry/music, which the pre-Socratic Greeks regarded as a
unity: _mousike_  poetry/dance/music/education. . .  Is this "symbolic relation"
a _meaning_-fulness? - and a "meaning" NOT in terms of language?
 
							Ingrid


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