Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:59:13 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Tompkins <st265089-AT-oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Subject: Re: Music, Nietzsche, Rhythm Violet and all, Mozart didn't change opera? I never wrote that Wagner, was the logical step, I thought that was the issue at hand? BUT tonality is not just "a feeling of gravity", perhaps it is a cute metaphor, but for rendering the "graphic" distribution of tones, one can assume for example that in the key of G Major, g, will have a consistent quantitative sound waves, that is, one can determine that the frequencies of tones in the musical scale correspond logarithmically to integers, in short, another set of signs. "Complexity", if we are striving for logical accuracy here, could be measured in terms of the distribution of these integers, synchronically, and diachronically - I guess I want to demonstrate here that there are a number of ways to signify what one might mean by the logical consistency of composer to composer and piece to piece. But for conventional sake, as someone mentioned on an earlier post, saying the Viennese tradition exemplified certain characteristics, could be like saying that Dali was a surrealist; the latter of course would be "acceptable" but it diminishes the effects of the artist's growth as well. we all know what it's like when someone casually says, "oh yeah, that Nietzsche guy, god is dead, or something, right?" Perhaps fine in passing, but why do spend so much time babbling on and on endlessly about it. It's like trying to find "genius within a context", both in its deviation from tradition and it's rupture of the strength of an era. now what what it mean to say wagner changed music "itself"? what about that guy who records silence, how would he be placed? People take this man seriously. I can't recall his name, anyone? claims like "changing music itself" make no sense to me, it is empty and remember that big winds come from empty caves. - Maledetto colui che contrista un spirto immortal! - Cursed whoever saddens an immortal spirit! --- from list nietzsche-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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