File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1995/nietzsche_Nov9.95, message 52


Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 08:07 CDT
Subject: Re: Music, Nietzsche, Rhythm


Well, this is to say that silence is not phenomenon, the dionysian, which,
as Nietzsche writes in _The Birth of Tragedy_ is beyond phenomenon. . .
music stands in
symbolic relation to primordial pain & contradiction and primordial unity, the
dionysian /  Dionysus, always in withdrawal, or the retreat of the gods as in
Heidegger's "What are Poets For?" --which is why I pose the question of the
lyric -- in terms of rhythm, silence as opposed to sound, tone, harmony, or,
put
another way, techne, or, put another way, the everyday (Cage, to some extent)
the empirical, etc., keeping in mind the issue of mimesis, representation. . .
What is the nature of this symbolic relation of music to the dionysian?


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