File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1995/nietzsche_Nov9.95, message 7


Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:22:41 -0800
Subject: Re: Music, Nietzsche, Rhythm


90DOS-AT-cua.edu wrote:

>I'm sorry, but it's not as if subscibing to a philosophy list or
>attending a university wasn't itself elitist.  Maybe if you worked
>in a sweatshop you would be taken seriously.  As for me, kindly
>unsubscribe

Which raises some interesting questions.  Is Nietzsche simply _the_
elitist of elitists or a kind of "counter-elitist"?  How to account
for his anti-authoritarianism?  Is subscribing to the Nietzsche
mailing list really elitist, and are universities really elitist
anymore?  Do you have to work in a sweatshop to legitimately turn your
nose up at opera?  Wasn't one of Nietzsche's plaints that Wagner was
using cheap tricks to appeal to the masses?  Isn't Wagner, in this
sense, an "anti-elitist," which is another way of saying a "wannabe"?
Wasn't Wagner the first Warholian "mass-celebrity"?  And, in that
sense, very much like a "pop star"?  But, are not both opera and
classical music "dead languages," not because no one is listening any
more, but rather because no one is speaking?  Isn't its appeal
primarily that it is fixed, unchanging, no longer evolving?  Dead?  Is
this not what "classical" means?  Wasn't it in its own day simply
music?  Is it anymore?

No, don't unsubscribe.  Often, I think, one does not get responded to
right away because one is simply being agreed with.  In other words,
you often have to first get disagreed with to discover who is in
agreement with you.  I, for one, have enjoyed your comments.

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            Steven E. Callihan -- callihan-AT-callihan.seanet.com

            "Some lies are so well disguised to resemble truth, 
      that we should be poor judges of the truth not to believe them"

                           --La Rochefoucauld

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