Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:08:23 -0500 From: albright-AT-world.std.com (R.H. Albright) Subject: Heroes and Sleepers... Evan Leeson brings up some interesting points. Certainly the tension that... never goes away... is something on which I think Derrida seized, and we can feel it in pre-Socratic works such as Heraclitus and Anaximander. I wonder, though, if people still *get* either Nietzsche or Jesus, or... so many others. Nietzsche, from my understanding, was deeply suspicious of these things called "words", which is perhaps why he liked Emerson so much. For me, the greatest Emerson essay on the elliptical nature of things, how they can be misread so easily, slip, are moving themselves, etc., is perhaps the "Circles" essay. And, yes, the Herd corresponds to Emerson's complaint about "how many REAL individuals are there, among us today?" And, yes Nietzsche, as Evan has pointed out in "The greatest danger" (76, in Book Two) of _The Gay Science_, warns himself about the excesses of mere Dionysian. Evan also writes: >Nietzsche only grudgingly >acknowledges the necessity of something like a commonweal. And this strikes a familiar chord for me, because I believe it was after World War II that someone in Parliament, United (now Dissolving?) Kingdom, said something of the same thing: basically, that of the options, democracy is the best we have. Certainly some idea of *republic*, however, which guarantees rights to minorities to not be oppressed by majority, needs to be considered, which is why I brought up the ACLU in the States. As far as Nietzsche's hero-worship thing-- hey, I'm an anarchist at heart, but I see it happening over and over again. People want it. Be if John Kennedy in his time (at least he got the Peace Corps going, as clumsy as it was at first?), or Princess Diana (better to be out there, talking about the danger of land-mines than just... sitting in a palace and letting others eat cake?)... I see this need. So the question is: who am I going to follow, personally? Myself. But... others? Well... all I can say is that Gandhi is a better role model than Hitler. As far as Nietzsche's wariness of "the herd", that is something I share. But what do you make of his "Of the Friend" in _Thus Spoke..._? Why are women "not yet capable of friendship"? Do you buy that? Is that his problem or... something you share? Is he talking on a... higher level, and maybe we should just... be happy that women can't be friends? More on this "herd" stuff-- because I want to make sure that the SuperMan remembers that he is really just an Ape who has worked himself up to this higher state-- and I think it's important to understand why people like Albert Camus knew that Nietzsche himself knew that he had a dark side, but that Camus was fighting, in _The Plague_, to HELP people, not to murder them, despite overwhelming odds at times-- "Of the Chairs of Virtue" in _Thus Spoke..._: Zarathustra listens to a wise man that tells us to honour sleep and modesty before it. "Sleeping is no mean art..." etc. What's that all about? Maybe some of those people in the herd are asleep, or maybe they're awake, and... who are we to judge? ---Randall Albright --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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