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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:36:33 -0800 (PST)
From: callihan-AT-callihan.seanet.com (Steven E. Callihan)
Subject: Re: Nietzsche on Mill and Darwin


John's latest pronouncement:

>Dumber than a shucked oyster!
>
>It is only in the "late" decadent phase of a culture that
>homosexuality begins to assume a patina of
>semi-respectability. Prior to that, it has been the
>collective wisdom of society to abhor this type of
>behavior as evinced by the legal system as well
>as religious teachings. Now, why is that society
>has deemed this necessary? You have not a
>scintilla of actual fact to back up your imaginings
>that homosexuality provides a survival advantage
>to society. A rationalist can rationalise anything is
>all you've proven.

Dumber that a shucked oyster, indeed! You might try actually arguing against
my points. I don't need "a scintilla of actual fact" because I am neither
arguing against nor for the genetic basis for homosexuality. You are the one
who is vociferating about homosexuality not possibly being genetic--I'm
merely pointing out some of the gaping holes in the otherwise entirely
threadbare arguments you have chosen to offer. Although, calling them
"arguments," even threadbare ones, is perhaps giving you a great deal more
credit than you deserve--primarily they are just opinions for which I doubt
you have a scintilla of credible reasoning to back up.

[Ignoring entirely everything else I wrote.............]

>Nietzsche was quite prescient when he wrote the democratic
>movement inherits the Christian. To have high status within
>the democratic system, greater glory, one is best to
>be a member of a persecuted minority. Vicious attacks on the
>existing social order and morality are therefore quite appropriate
>in advancing your particular cause. In the final analysis, what
>these little sects conspire towards is nihilism, pure and
>simple. But it will not come to that, it must not come to
>that.
>
>In the political realm, with the becoming Imperium, this repugnant
>witches' brew of Marxism, Darwinism and late Christianity will
>have a stake driven through its heart. The final struggle for
>the soul of the state has already begun. The time draws nigh
>to take the offensive and wrest back political control of the state
>from these miserable usurpers.

Your "becoming Imperium," if it is anything like the last attempt at such
(the Third Reich), will be rife with queers, from top to bottom! Dream on!

Since you have chosen to entirely ignore EACH AND EVERY THING that I have
said, I can only assume that you entirely agree with me on each and every
point that I have brought up. I will assume your silence to be your assent.
Glad to have you on my side, John! Of course, if you do wish to register a
point of non-agreement, please be specific and, if at all possible, logical.
On the other hand, John, you should regard my silence, which will recommence
immediately following this post, as the utter rejection of whatever you may
have said or may still say.

Eubie the Mensch





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=A6 Steven E. Callihan            =A6        "The more mistrust,         =A6
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=A6 E-Mail: callihan-AT-callihan.com =A6-F. Nietzsche, The Gay Science, 346.=A6
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