File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1998/nietzsche.9804, message 104


From: "John Duryea" <jtduryea-AT-dmv.com>
Subject: Re: The Speciation Of Floom
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:02:19 -0500



>John, humans are bipedal. Of course all the known human fossils and
>footprints are bipedal! If it's not bipedal, it's not human.
>"partial human" would naturally be only partially bipedal.

Matt, Matt, Matt, the earliest fossils of fully bi-pedal creatures are
homonids with a brain only 1/3 the size of humans. This of course begs the
question what is it that makes us human and when did humans come into being?

>Your cicular argument didn't lose me; it just wasn't relevant to me.

You said a mouthful there, anything outside of Darwinist-Marxist dogma isn't
of relevance to you.

>It had nothing to do with evolution or evolutionary theory. It was
>just a sad attack on a         *part* of a process that you don't
>understand.

Matt, Matt, Matt, just because I'm sceptical of something does not mean I
don't understand it! Gradual evolution is logically absurd, the more gradual
it is, the more absurd it is. How can a backbone gradually evolve over
millions and millions of years, it simply makes no sense.

>(That's why it was a straw man argument. You only attacked
>part of a theory.)

The part that underpins the whole edifice. "Gradual evolution" by means of
"genetic mutation" through "natural selection" is logically absurd and
inherently self contradictory. But that won't stop gazillions of dollars
being spent on bullshit propoganda every year to promote it to the herd.
Does Nietzsche in any way, shape or fashion support your arguments?

>Anyway, I assume that you are referring to Lucy
>(the fossil hominid) when you rant about a "missing link?" There's one
>of your transitional forms. No one has claimed that Lucy (the species)
>was a direct transitional form between our apelike ancestors and us.
>Lucy (the species) is still a transitional form, though, because it
>shares characteristics of apes and humans. That's the very definition
>of a transitional form. Need more? Read some of those talk.origin faqs
>that you seem to hate so much. There are dozens and dozens, if not
>hundreds, there.
>
>-Matt


Species is another bullshit term, it's basis is to be found in Linneaus'
utterly artificial (as he himself admitted) system of classification. Much
beyond saying species mate and reproduce (well, Duh!!!) you cannot define
what you mean by species, just as Lambda C has not a clue as to what he
means by race.

John T. Duryea




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