From: Tristich <Tristich-AT-aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:12:41 EST Subject: Re: Replies Doug Thacker writes: > Doesn't it go without saying, that Nazism is not Nietzsche's fault? And > further, that under the same conditions, German fascism would have arisen, > with or without Nietzsche (much less, his disgusting sister)? But the form > that fascism took - the neopaganism, the "knightly-aristocratic" > pretensions, the worship of "strength" and mercilessness - and the > concomitant murder of tens of millions: could these have been so easily > appropriated (or, as you wish, misappropriated), without Nietzsche's > constant emphasis on race, his incessant talk of "Jewish revaluation," > "Jewish hatred," "shortness of skull," and, not least, the "raging Germanic > blond beast"? The "inextinguishable horror" of Europe is not extinguished > still. > > The value of Nietzsche lies in none of these things and does not require > them. The value of Nietzsche lies precisely in his formulations of > "becoming" and "self-overcoming." And just as Marx had to turn Hegel on > his head ("or rather, on his feet"), in order to extract his immense value > from the morass of metaphysics in which he had squarely sequestered > himself; so must we invert Nietzsche, to extract from him what is ours: a > "becoming" that denies the legitimacy of the "elite;" a "self-overcoming" > that contains the history we maybe have only to seek. > I think Doug Thacker has just answered his own indictment of Nietzsche. It does go without saying that Naziism was not Nietzsche's fault, and German fascism would have arisen with or without Nietzsche, with or without his sister, and with or without his sister's husband. But the form that German fascism took also cannot be placed at Nietzsche's feet. To say so presupposes that all those brown shirted thugs, to say nothing of Hitler and even the German populace as a whole, not only were the least bit familiar with Nietzsche's writings, but that they took an understanding of them (albeit a false one) for their guide to everyday conduct and for the pap on which they nourished their bigotry toward anyone branded as "them" instead of "us." We could as well argue that German fascism took its cue from Ayn Rand. It would be much closer to the mark to say that German fascism took its form, right down to its most base and degenerate atrosities, from hundreds of years of teachings of the Christian church, and that the ["mis"]appropriation of those teachings was made all the easier by the utter failure of _anyone_ in the church to condemn Naziism as un-Christian or to point out the error in its morality. How much easier was it for the Nazis to conduct their program, moreover, by the out and out hospitality afforded the Nazis by prominent church officials, including the pope? What a shame it is that Nietzsche was not more widely known and respected and that the sort of tartufferies he condemned were not more widely recognized to be exhibited in contemporary politics and pulpit? Fritz --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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