From: "dthacker" <dthacker-AT-triton.net> Subject: Fw: Lambda C - All a Clever Ruse? Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:13:41 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------- > From: John Duryea <jtduryea-AT-dmv.com> > To: nietzsche-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu > Subject: Lambda C - All a Clever Ruse? > Date: Sunday, April 12, 1998 11:29 AM > > The more one reads Lambda C, the more there emerges a clever ruse. > > > What Lambda C fails to understand is that of course Nietzsche will not > explicitly defend the anti-Semites in BGE (the epitome of his mature > thought) because the anti-Semites were disciples of Darwinism which > Nietzsche condemns as part and parcel of "modern ideas", that English > mediocrity of world outlook which Nietzsche utterly detests. > Lambda C utterly fails to understand the implications of "still > weak" versus "weak". What Nietzsche has seen here with his intuitive insight > is that the Jews, a part of the Magian Culture (0 - 1000 AD) have already > gone through their cultural life cycle and as such have hardened into a > fellaheen, ahistorical people. The legitimate historical question here > revolves around reaching a judgement in regards to the relationship of the > two cultures at the time in which Nietzsche lived, that is, one people was > fully formed and "become" whereas the other was still "becoming". An > interesting sidelight into this is the realtionship between the Romans of > Classical Culture and Magian man. There are examples of Magian man in > exasperation rising up and conducting pogroms against the alien culture in > their midst. Regardless, with Becoming Imperium, the two cultures are on > equal footing > Lambda C just can't or won't get it. However one may want to define "race", > and certainly jejune Darwinism utterly fails to give anything approaching a > deep understanding to this human mystery, it is absurd to suggest that the > Christian religion is inherently "racist" and in all of BGE Nietzsche most > certainly does not do so. > > >("and however unconditionally all cautious and > >politic men may have repudiated real anti-Jewism, even this caution and > >policy is not directed against this class of feeling itself but only > >against its dangerous immoderation(...)" (BGE, 251)) enable Christians > >to forget that they are the ultimate consequence of the Judaic > >priesthood, they who perfected resentment into the creeping plant of bad > >conscience. > > A good example here of Lambda C twisting Nietzsche's meaning with his add on > to Nietzsche's quote. Lambda C's add on is utterly nonsensical and > inapplicable to BGE 251. In all of BGE 251 Nietzsche does not use the word > Christian and deliberately so because the issue he is addressing is a > political-historical one. > > Read carefully BGE 251, what does Nietzsche mean when he writes: > > "That Germany has an ample sufficiency of Jews, that the German stomach, > German blood has difficulty (and will to continue to have difficulty for a > long time to come) in absorbing even this quantum of 'Jew' - as the > Italians, the French, the English have absorbed them through possessing a > stronger digestion -: this is the clear declaration and language of a > universal instinct to which one must pay heed, in accordance with which one > must act. 'Let in no more Jews! And close especially the doors to the East > (also to Austria)!' - thus commands the instinct of a people whose type is > still weak and undetermined, so that it could be effaced, easily > extinguished by a stronger race." > > Could not the above be construed as justification for collaboration with the > Zionists in displacing the Jewish populations into concentration camps, > knowing the war was lost, with the expectation that their ultimate > destination would be Palestine? Lambda C exhibits in other posts a curious > affinity to Hitler, a man who some consider as cleverly revenging his > tortured existence on the German people. Interesting to speculate what > exactly Lambda C is really up to. > > >Fourthly, there is the difficult question of Nietzsche's racial > >theories. For the most part Nietzsche considers cultures and races as > >crossed cultures and crossed races. > > Nietzsche writes of breeding a racial type, but does no such thing in > regards to a cuture. > > >Pure races, which he admires > >("(...)races that have become pure have always become *stronger* and > >*more beautiful*" (DB, IV, 272) however are seen as developing by > >"countless adaptations, absorptions and secretions", by countless > >selections that must perforce involve cross-breeding and distillation of > >a type, not inbreeding- > > > >"It is true that there are racial considerations in Nietzsche. But race > >only ever intervenes as an element in a *cross-breeding*, as a factor in > >a *complex* which is physiological but also psychological, political, > >historical and social. Such a complex is exactly what Nietzsche calls a > >type. The type of the priest - there is no other problem for > >Nietzsche. > > Here we peek into Lambda C's central thesis. The type of the priest seems to > be "no other problem" for Lambda C. One cannot in any fashion reduce > Nietzsche's powerful thought down to such a simplistic assertion. Is Lambda > C being genuine or is this a clever attempt at self-alienation within the > Jewish community wrapped up in the guise of rabid "anti-germanism" as clever > bait. > > >He did not say: long-live death! He > >said - the will to power is the will to live. He said - "It is the > >powerful [not the mightiest] who *understand* how to honour, that is > >their art, their realm of invention" (BGE, 260). > > Here Lambda C cannot seem to differentiate between will to live, > "self-preservation", (note that Spinoza's self-preservation was transfigured > into something much less noble by "modern ideas") and will to life, "will to > power". One must make this differentiation to be capable of heroically > embracing the fact that man's fate is tragic, the basis for a noble outlook, > an outlook which that ignoble disciple of Darwin and Marx, Hitler, totally > lacked. > > > > >With Nazism, the Germans did not honour themselves nor their past, > >whether pagan or Christian. With Nazism, the Germans invented a method > >to dishonour themselves through history. > > > > > >Lambda C > > > > > Quite an interesting ruse, all in all, if somewhat transparent. > > John T. Duryea > What the fuck are you talking about? What is the "Becoming Imperium" and what exactly is your point? Btw, I've yet to prepare my response to Lambda C but a response is coming. Or becoming. D.
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