File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1998/nietzsche.9806, message 15


From: Ben Wilson <ben-AT-gremlin.co.uk>
Subject: RE: freedom of will
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:01:43 +0100


Since FN believed the ego to be an 'error of grammar'. Any statement 'I
will', 'She wills' etc. must also be erroneous. Hence no linking the
subject with the will, and therefore no free will.


Ben.
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> Subject: 	Re: freedom of will
>
> cornets de groot wrote:
>
> >Can anybody please tell me why according to FN there is no such thing
> as
> >freedom of the will, or direct me to some of the available on-line
> texts
> >where he points this out? For some odd reason I always find myself
> without
> >words when people - especially religious people - state that there
> is. It's
> >very frustrating to not be able to respond to a simple question such
> as:
> >'well, you *do* have a choice, don't you?' I would like to deny that
> with a
> >sound argument in less than 10 words. Thank you all.
>
> I believe Nietzsche's full position is that there is neither free nor
> unfree
> will. The distinction is an imaginary moral one, between the free will
> of
> the spirit (moral action) and the unfree will of nature (immorality).
> See
> WTP 786 (my ellipsis):
>
> "Through a psychological misunderstanding, one has invented an
> _antithesis_
> to the motivating forces, and believes one has described another kind
> of
> force; one has imagined a _primum mobile_ that does not exist at all.
> Accroding to the valuation that evolved the antithesis 'moral' and
> 'immoral'
> in general, one has to say: _there are only immoral intentions and
> actions_....But this whole species of intentions and actions is purely
> imaginary; the world to which alone the moral standard can be applied
> does
> not exist at all:--_there are neither moral nor immoral actions_.
>
> Best,
>
> Steve
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