From: "John T. Duryea" <jtduryea-AT-dmv.com>
Subject: Re: Beyond the Bourgeoisie ("the joke of this gloomy grimace and trope") 
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:55:16 -0500



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From: Steven E. Callihan <callihan-AT-callihan.seanet.com>
To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
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Date: Sunday, June 28, 1998 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Beyond the Bourgeoisie ("the joke of this gloomy grimace and
trope")


>>You must have a Marxist translation of BGE 34, in mine, by R. J.
>>Hollingdale, the word bourgeoise does not appear, his translation is
"beyond
>>the the civil world and its Yes and No..."
>
>The word used in the original is _bürgerlichen_. Either "civil"
>(Hollingdale) or "bourgeois" (Kaufmann) would seem to be perfectly
>appropriate. Given Nietzsche's penchant for ironic subtexts, "bourgeois" as
>reflective of _Bürger_ would seem to me to be the more aptly appropriate.
>
>Please don't think I'm initiating a conversation here, John. Just setting
>the record straight.
>
>Best,
>
>Doobie the Henchman



Let's quote the sentence in its entirety:

"In civil life an ever-ready mistrustfulness may count as a sign of 'bad
character' and thus be an imprudent thing to have: here among us, beyond the
civil world and its Yes and No  - what is there to stop us from being
imprudent and saying: the philosopher, as the creature which has hitherto
always been most fooled on earth, has by now a right to 'bad character' - he
has the duty to be distrustful, to squint wickedly up out of every abyss of
suspicion."

The fact is that one must roll up the bourgeoise with the proleitariet in
the above quote and be Caesar-like; he who stopped the mutiny of a favorite
legion, the 10th at Campania in 46 B.C.,  and restored discipline with a
single insult:

"Quirites"

John T. Duryea



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