From: lambdac-AT-globalserve.net Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:56:27 -0500 Subject: No, von Trier and you are delusional! ----------------------------------------------------------------- >Gee, Bess thought she did what she did because she loved her husband, but I >suppose she should have read Lacan and Adorno and then she would have been >saved from her delusions. I don't suppose you are taken in by crap like, >"Greater love hath no man..." The director thought that his Bess would do what she did because she loved her husband. In reality, any Bess would only do what she did out of a vitiation of her desire to live and love. "Bess initially believes sexual debasement will be the cure of her ills, but she finally settles to offer God her life in place of Jan's. If it could be true - by some stupid quirk, how 'good' would Jan feel- being kept alive through this deal? This is but a cinematographic repetition of the fantastic trick invented by Paul: a God that immolates his own son to save mankind - all life yet to come will then be in eternal debt to this God that can love mankind so much as to damn itself in the flesh. What a damnation of life!" (...) For what many millions of Besses and Jans are starved for is life, love and the exercise of their powers of creation. Masses of lonely individuals who know not how to live or love, nor how to pursue their desires, and are objectively denied access to the material conditions that could permit the realization of these desires. (...) When even the smallest and most insignificant moments of life are denied access to their material conditions for existence, one can either resort to a healthy violence and attempt to redress those conditions, or from then on, any line of escape will be bound to turn on the spot, in a void, captured by the apparatuses of expression. It is little wonder then that those who live most intensely are often won over to suicide in their early years. (...) At bottom, one would find that only Jan was real for Bess, and only Bess for Jan. They were touched by the chance of sharing an inhuman becoming between them. As one withered, the other did the same, and their last act of love, only too human, was to share a will to die. Thereby they aborted their journeys and became ephemeral to each other. The line of escape became prison, and turned into self-abolition." Lambda Maud Montgomery PS - By the way, Lacan and Adorno are fairly useless. --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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