From: "John T. Duryea" <jtduryea-AT-dmv.com>
Subject: Re: On Apes
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:07:21 -0500



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From: Jorge Gonzalez Nakazawa <jnakazawa-AT-softtek.com>
To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: On Apes


>
>
>John T. Duryea wrote:
>
>> >How's this? (my ellipsis):
>> >
>> >"If the sequences of humans and chimpanzees are compared nucleotide by
>> >nucleotide, they differ by only 1.7%. Humans and gorillas differ by
1.8%,
>> >almost as little; humans and orangutans, 3.3%, humans and gibbons, 4.3%,
>> >humans and rhesus monkeys, 7%, humans and lemurs, 22.6%....
>> >
>> >When ACGT sequences that are mainly active genes are examined, a 99.6%
>> >identity is found between the human and chimp. At the level of the
working
>> >geners, only about 0.4% of the DNA of humans is different from the DNA
of
>> >chimps....
>> >
>> >On the basis of all the evidence, the closest relative of the human
proves
>> >to be the chimp. The closest relative of the chimp is the human. Not
>> >orangs, but people. Us. Chimps and humans are nearer kin than are chimps
>> >and gorillas or any other kinds of ape not of the same species. Gorillas
>> >are the next closest relatives, both to chimps and to humans....By these
>> >standards, humans and chimps ae about as closely related as horses and
>> >donkeys, and are closer relatives than mice and rats, or turkeys and
>> >chickens, or camels and llamas."
>> >
>> >-- Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan, _Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors_, p.
276-277.
>> >
>>
>> Funny, didn't chimps and Ice Age humans have a completely different diet
and
>> social structure, unlike mice and rats, turkeys and chickens or camels
and
>> llamas? Hey, if the facts don't fit in the picture, throw them out. Gee,
>> science sure is a wonderful thing!
>>
>> John T. Duryea
>>
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>
>  Mr. Duryea, do you really believe that if the active genes or humans and
>chimps are, according to the cited text, 99.4% equal this must imply that
human
>and chimp social structure and diet will be the same?  It occurs to me that
>there are great differences between the diets and social structure of many
human
>cultures. Should we consider then that different cultures must constitute
>different species?
>
>J.Nakazawa
>


Dang it, you've stuffed so many words in my mouth, I can't talk!

John T. Duryea




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