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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:00:18 -0500
From: Dan Dzenkowski <djdzenko-AT-students.wisc.edu>
Subject: Types of men that Cross over


Prologue #4

"Zarathustra beheld the people and was amazed."  They did not care to live
life, it was a spectacle to watch.

"Man is a rope..." Life is not easy, there are many hazards between the
degenerate beast, and the esteeming overman.  Man is not an end and should
not be treated as such.  Christianity, Science, Modern Ideas want to make
man an end.  Man is great since he is not an end, he can go under, thus
becoming greater, and showing that he is not an end.  

"Those who do not know how to live, except by going under." Going
under...realizing that at base one is an animal, not a moral monster, and
that you have to realize that, before you can cross over.  This is how you
get started.  

"Great despisers..." The arrow of longing, this comes up quite often in the
story.  The skeptics become great, because they don't buy into the
conventions that man has created for himself, which are usually unhealthy.
Nietzsche admired Diogenes of Sinope for this.  

Those that sacrifice themselves for the earth.  Those that live life
according to life, not a mysticism that puts meanings and effects, away from
the individual.  Those that pave the way for the overman.

Those who live to know and want to know are the people who experiment with
knowledge, or life.  

The type of people that have just been described are the ones that are
building the house for the overman, each type of person is taking on  a
specific task in building the house.  Laying bricks, putting up walls, etc.
Making the earth a place that the overman can flourish in.

Virtue, a personal ideal that is created through a particular strength of an
individual. Virtue described as spirit, what makes up a man.  Virtue as an
addiction and catastrophe.  Something you crave and can never have enough
of, but could and probably will lead to your ultimate destruction.  A
Dionysian rapture that is not created around drugs, but life its self.  A
loss of former self and transformation into something else.  Dionysius is
after all the god of transformation.

Having too many virtues is described later on.

A soul that squanders itself on itself.  Nothing but pure ego.  He does
everything for himself, not for a higher order, or for the weak.  He does
everything so that he can become stronger.

He is embarrassed when the dice fall, since he is wagering on chance, he is
trying to create his future.  ???  Amor fati, he does not resent it, he is
just trying to create a future, out of acceptance of the past.  "justifies
the future and redeems past generations."

One who can perish of a small experience, because they do not keep it in
their memory, hidden and destructive, but out in the open where they have to
deal with it, or be destroyed.  

Soul that is overfull and forgets himself..a master morality.

free spirits...ones who know what is healthy for themselves, they do not sit
around and think about it, they just know. They make correct decisions
regarding health and decadence.

Heavy drops..higher men on the edge of the thunderhead, called the overman.
They perish in the beginning of the storm (gladly) to prepare the way for
the overman.  

"Behold, I am a herald of the lightning and a heavy drop from the cloud; but
this lightning is called Overman."

So Zarathustra is not the Overman....

Dan












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