File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1998/nietzsche.9808, message 174


From: "John T. Duryea" <jtduryea-AT-dmv.com>
Subject: Re: Values and Riddles - The Grass is Always Greener...
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:47:37 -0500




>At 10:45 AM 8/4/98 -0400, Sean Saraq wrote:
>>I'm happy to see that there are quite a few Dutch people on the list. As
>>you may be aware, the World Values Survey, which is the largest survey
>>of socio-cultural values in the world, found the Netherlands to be the
>>most "postmodern" in its values of the 43 countries surveyed. So I look
>>forward to your comments, since you seem to be in the lead of where the
>>world is heading, at least in terms of social values. And don't forget,
>>Nietzsche was writing philosophy for the following two centuries, so we
>>still have a Nietzsche-inspired/foretold century to go! Hopefully
>>someday I'll have the chance to live in Amsterdam and learn from you
>>directly.
>
>World Values Survey?
>Nietzsche was very concerned with Values and as far as I know the Dutch as
a
>people (that are so very progressive or even modern) have neither created
or
>destroyed any values. It seems to me that Nietzsche would be horrified at
>the thought of world values.  He was more interested in the values of
>individuals or peoples as long as they exhibited  a will to health
(opposite
>of decadence).
>  "Whatever makes them rule and triumph and shine to the awe of their
>neighbors, that is to them the high, the first, the measure, the meaning of
>all things. Verily my brother ,once you have recognized the need and land
>and sky and neighbor of  a people you may also guess the law of their
>overcomings, and why they climb to their hope on this ladder." thousand and
>one goals
>
>A possible answer to this riddle...the need for the love of life that wills
>its self.  What is the love of life?  The esteem that one has over a
creation.
>
>Another riddle, this time  from Ecce Homo. What is the meaning of Ariadne
as
>a response to the night song?
>
>Why does a god need a woman that is left upon the shore by a brave hero
>(Theseus)?  Dionysius as a redeemer of Ariadne's past..sounds a bit
>Wagnerian.  Any thoughts?
>
>Dan
>


Ahhh, Dan, I wouldn't mind it too much when the provincials cast a longing
eye now and then on some other would-be possessor. Even we Romans from time
to time look back at Athens and it's decadence with bemusement. I think
Holland, and for that matter, most of Europe makes a great living museum to
brotherly love free-thinkers and their "modern ideas". For some balance, one
might chat up an Indonesian about Dutch benevolence.

John T. Duryea




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