Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:46:39 -0700
Subject: Re: god and gramm
From: chaimberel-AT-juno.com (BERNARD R)




  





On Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:12:28 GMT cornets-AT-2005.bart.nl (cornets de groot)
writes:
>Steve Callihan wrote:
>>
>>This, of course, opens up the whole question of metaphysics, and 
>whether we
>>can ever really, really, get beyond metaphysics. From the Nietzschean
>>perspective, it is an open question, although at the same time 
>foregoing
>>any kind of romantic escape. The Heideggerian retreat into ontology
>>(ontotheology?) might possibly be seen as just such an escape (that 
>is
>>where the asceticism would lie). Nietzsche, on the other hand,
>>acknowledges, it seems to me, that we are to some degree or other 
>caught
>>within the net of metaphysics (a net spun by language, logic, reason, 
>etc.)
>>and cannot get outside of it -- however, at the same time he 
>withdraws from
>>that net the character of being "true." (God is dead.) Rather, it is
>>subsumed under art, as being itself a creative evolution and 
>development (a
>>becoming).
>
>
>I like what you're saying, and I also like Nietzsche's boldness in 
>just
>_deeming_ God dead and metaphysics not actual. Psychologically 
>speaking
>however, would not this desire to "really, really get beyond 
>metaphysics"

****
This "desire to `really, really get beyond metaphysics'" it seems to me
is our "honest and pure urge for truth...We still do not know where the
urge for truth comes from;for as yet we have heard only of the obligation
imposed by society that it should exist;"(ON TRUTH AND LIE  tpn-kaufmann
p42)

Bernard





>originate from the same desire that Christians have in wanting to be 
>with
>God? What metaphysics seems to represent is a sort of safe haven, 
>where we
>can rest and will not be harmed by life's turbulences. The "really, 
>really"
>thing is just another example of that desire. I think we should just 
>accept
>that language is full of traps (the only 'real' thing there being 
>verbs) and
>that it is a paradox that constitutes our universe (is and is not). 
>After
>all, only the dynamics of a paradox can guarantee continuity. An 
>absolotum
>would mean the end. 
>
>RC
>
>
>
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