File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_1998/nietzsche.9809, message 51


Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:03:40 -0400
From: albright-AT-world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
Subject: What Does Nietzche Say...


about people who might want to follow him?

Any specific quotes from, say, Zarathustra or... anywhere?

I can't relate *what* to Nietzsche? If I am relating it to "The Birth of
Tragedy", I could say that at that particular juncture in his life-- and
even then, one must be highly specific in parts of the text, because word
meanings change within their context-- he is warning that the
Socrates/Apollo collusion of mere reason/sophistry (how off-base is this,
folks?) has disconnected us from Dionysus, who is at heart the core of
tragedy. One might also consider that at that point of his career,
Nietzsche was a strong supporter of Wagner, who was a socialist, but had a
few problems like making Jews the scapegoats........

Anyone read _The Perfect Wagnerite_ by George Bernard Shaw, by the way?
Although Shaw was duped by Stalin into thinking things were going well in
the Soviet Union in 1930, most consider his *ideals* to be "humanitarian".

I would also suggest that people who actually believe that "God is Dead"
instead of an evolving project ponder why Michel Foucault also proclaimed
that "Man is Dead". Is "man" really dead, my friends? Or is Foucault
playing with a word game there?

Also, has anyone heard the vicious rumor that George Emerson was created by
E.M. Forster as a "Dionysian" character, who de-stabilized things but was
actually a nice guy?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

207
THE ENVIOUS.
He is envious; let us hope that he will not have children, for he would
envy them because he cannot be a child anymore.
        ---Nietzsche, from _The Gay Science_

~~~~~~~

God is dead
only if you follow the Enlightenment project carried out
as early as Socrates, who thought that he could *argue*
against God,
when...
well, to put it simply, Pentheus,
don't mess w/ Dionysus.
The blood is the life.

~~~~~~~~~~

---Randall Albright






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