From: "Leigh M. Johnson" <quickleigh-AT-email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: deleuze quote
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:09:00 -0600


it's from "What Is Philosophy?"
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From: Sean Saraq <sean_saraq-AT-environics.ca>
To: 'nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu'
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Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: methinks thou dost protest too much!


>I don't know where that particular Deleuze quote comes from, but Deleuze
>more than "dipped into" politics, but it was not macro State politics.
>Rather, he lent "micropolitical" support to the  Baader Meinhof movement
>and other assorted radical causes. His co-writer Guattari supported the
>radical ecological  movement (see, for example, Dave Foreman,
>Christopher Manes etc.)
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Leigh M. Johnson [SMTP:quickleigh-AT-email.msn.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 1998 9:50 PM
>> To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> Subject: methinks thou dost protest too much!
>>
>> I should make a public apology for the unnecessary triviality of my
>> response
>> to Cd's disclaiming of the postmodern pigeonhole.  The sad fact of
>> this
>> medium is that sometimes the intended
>> lightness/humor/all-in-good-fun-ness
>> gets lost in the translation/transmission.
>>
>> So let me start again...
>>
>> It is true that much of the postmodern lingo has seeped into
>> intelligent
>> discourse, much of it rather subversively.  Many who claim to disclaim
>> the
>> movement, like Cd, do so in a manner that, to the untrained ear,
>> sounds a
>> lot like postmodernism itself.  Postmodernism, however ill-defined, is
>> tricky precisely because (like Sartre's hell) it tends to present
>> itself as
>> having "no exit."  The moment one stakes his or her claim outside of
>> it
>> ("how I stopped reading theory and philosophy and learned to love
>> poetry"),
>> postmodernism merely extends the parameters of the game so that even
>> these
>> insistent denials are never safe from being incorporated into
>> anOther's
>> "neurotic impasses."
>>
>> Let me be clear:  I have no desire to consign Cd to the same play-room
>> of
>> the Nazi doctor he so despises, nor the legions of card-carrying
>> postmoderns
>> who would whitewash such a reputation (as Heidegger's) by purposing to
>> be
>> too in tune with the enlightened and sarcastic "high culture" to care.
>> Remember Deleuze, though, who once remarked that when any philosopher
>> dips
>> into politics he has already gone awry... an explanation which he used
>> to
>> justify the reading of Heidegger, not condemn it.  I wouldn't suggest
>> that
>> one play any game dictated by "micro-fascists" or "conventional
>> widom".  But
>> be careful that your clothes aren't stitched of the same cloth as the
>> Emporer's you so passionately disdain.
>>
>> All's fair, as they say....
>>
>> leigh
>>
>>
>>
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