From: lambdac-AT-globalserve.net Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 23:52:05 -0500 Subject: Re: To a 'Deleuzian' cornudo S. Saraq wrote- >I simply >pointed out that Deleuze supported Baader Meinhof - and not only once >they were in prison, but all the way through their career. And, as I >mentioned, Guattari supported the radical ecologists. Both of them also >supported Antonio Negri. All that weight of 'supporting this', 'supporting that' surely would have sunk them! Yes, yes, and it is precisely this 'pointing out' of the patently false (eg 'supported Baader-Meinhof') which is so flatly gratuitous. Aren't you even a tad ashamed of dishing out such toilette paper? Guess not. Leaving Negri alone, since he was not part of this rat's ass per se, let us deal with the Baader-Meinhof/RAF disinformation that you have now peddled- What Guattari wrote on the subject runs something like this - who needs more revolutionists that confuse terror with 'liberation', and oedipalization with molecular alteration? No one. Save the 'media', save those working to prolong the collective intoxication dished out by the 'media' in their efforts to induce guilt. For what matters "is essentially (...) getting out of the RAF-West Germany confrontation, of the repression-reprisals cycle, of the quasi-symmetrical simplification of ideologies in opposition" (who wrote that dear?). Following Worst Mahler (whose humanist/legalistic stance nevertheless Guattari did not uphold), Guattari denounced the RAF's and the Red Brigades' 'politics of the worst' as a politics geared entirely to do the job of the State (providing justification for the most fascistic forms of 'democratic security') and the media (leading to a "legitimate feeling of pity" (sic) for those like Moro or Schleyer who are the objects of these "terrorist actions"): "the real drama is not that a man was killed, but that these actions were conducted in a way that simply does not break free of the repressive bourgeois system, fascist assassinations, or kidnappings carried out by unofficial police gangs(...) While I refuse to judge whether or not their executions were well founded - to judge their judges - I cannot stand by this type of operation". Are you then still suggesting that D&G supported the doings of little fascist murderers which Guattari, for ex., above explicitly disavows? But let us continue - since it is a good slap you are begging for: "And when a revolutionary group plays the game of the most reactionary media, the game of collective guilt, then it has been mistaken: mistaken in its target, mistaken in its method, mistaken in its strategy, mistaken in its theory, mistaken in its dreams..." The least you could have the courage to do, is to admit you have been mistaken. D&G _never_ supported the politics of the RAF. And if you had eyes to see and ears to listen, which we sincerely doubt you do, then maybe what is needed to be said is simply that Guattari in the above did not go far enough. It is a bit like the booklet he co-authored with Negri - it had been said better and more incisively by the SI, Debord and Sanguinetti (see Censor's Veridical Report), and well before. For one could hardly be bothered to realize that "the real consequence of 'terrorist' actions of the RAF/Red Brigades type does not at all seem to have been taken into account by the leaders of these movements". Well, in fact, they were - the politics of the worst did serve Capital, its State and its media well; it did what it was supposed to do. To call revolutionary any such 'movement' is already part and parcel of the stigmatizing of revolution by Capital , its State and its media. Indeed, when its leaders were not in the direct pay of the State to organize the actions they did, they surely had their strings pulled by controllers who knew very well what they were doing. It is these controllers which your intent to disinform serves - with its contemplation of the most virulent spectacle of revolution. "It is thus that in Italy the SIM, Military Intelligence Service of the fascist regime, so well known for its sabotages and its assassinations abroad, became the SID, Defence Intelligence Service under the Christian-Democratic regime [while keeping its archives, its informers and its practising officers]. (...) This SID, 'steeped in Italian blood', has had to be recently dissolved because, as the State acknowledges _post festum_, it was the one which since 1969 had carried out directly, most often but not always with bombs, this long series of massacres that were imputed, according to the time of the year and the fashion of the season, to anarchists, neo-fascists or to situationists. Now that the 'Red Brigade' does exactly the same work, and, for once, with a very superior operational value, it cannot combat it, since it has been dissolved... In any secret service worthy of its name, even the dissolution is secret. Hence one cannot distinguish what proportion of units was permitted an honourable retirement, what other proportion was assigned to the 'Red Brigade' or perhaps lent to the Shah of Iran to burn down a cinema in Abadan, and what other proportion was discreetly exterminated by a State probably indignant to learn that sometimes its instructions have been exceeded and about which it is known that it will never hesitate to kill the sons of Brutus in order to make its laws respected, since its intransigent refusal to envisage even the most minimal concession to save Moro has proved at last that it had all the staunch virtues of republican Rome." Our turn to ask - who's paying you to write the disinformation you peddle? No one?, then you must be even duller than one presumed. Créve salope! For, like this, you cannot claim to have one over any Nazi, be it even Heidegger. Lambda Comptante PS. "Already once before Urbach had given us weapons; thus the Security Police delivered weapons with which the police would be shot down. That's the situation in Germany. It's very perverted. We basically didn't see that we were marionettes on strings. When they themselves put the weapons in our hands, then they're very interested that they be used too. No one thought about that, nobody except the groups who criticized us for giving fuel to fascism (...)" (B. Baumann - "Wie Alles Anfing") --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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