Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 12:04:14 +0100 From: "W.F. Wong" <wf1-AT-myokay.net> Subject: Re: Tips on how to be an overman Paul Bryant wrote: "It's amazing that we have not gone one step further in the question of being since Heidegger... That a project which he himself admitted was incomplete has not in any way been developed or challenged." I think, the contemporary philosophers have gone into this question, but it is not a question of being but a question of being"s". Wong Paul Bryant wrote: > Hi Scott-- > > > Heidegger is a suspended problem for me. What does > > he offer that N > > doesn't? I've read the meta essay, tech essay, and > > I'm currently on BT. > > His style is post-Kantian technical. Unnecessarily > > boring? He does a > > great job of revealing scientific reductionism, but > > leaves one hanging > > as to where to go next, besides the Being question. > > In my opinion, this is precisely Heidegger's strength. > It's clear that I will be taken to task for this > comment, but, if something is to be taken to task in > Nietzsche it is that he tells us where to go next. > Telling us where to go next is precisely what a > thinker should never do. It's at precisely that point > that one crosses the line between philosophy and > religion. For to tell one where to go next is > equivalent to setting up an eschatology... And is > this not precisely what we see happening with > Nietzsche? One sees perpetually a discussion of the > coming of the ubermensch, as if it were a second > coming of Christ. Moreover, a set of saints is > created around the names of great men in history like > Caesar, Napolean, etc.. While this certainly wasn't > Nietzsche's intention, everything comes to nonetheless > be seen in a quasi-religious light. > > Our greatest strength and power consists in the > ability to create our own questions and problems. > Problems, questions, do not represent negative moments > to be passed over later, but are that which bestow > sense and meaning to our experience. By leaving the > question of where to go next open, Heidegger, in part, > insures the continuance of this power. However, new > dangers emerge here... There's always the > possibility-- a possibility that has in fact been > realized --that a new scholasticism will develop... > That more homage will be paid to the word rather than > the spirit. It's amazing that we have not gone one > step further in the question of being since > Heidegger... That a project which he himself admitted > was incomplete has not in any way been developed or > challenged. > > > Inquiry requires an > > intention. Being as inquiry is religious escapisim? > > There is certainly a mysticism that has developed > around the name of Heidegger... But it's always > necessary to distinguish between real problems and the > manner in which they are appropriated by doxa. One > must look at the manner in which Heidegger has been > appropriated and wonder/ask why these appropriations > have failed to pass through the > phenomenological/hermeneutic critique. > > > Open minds are > > great for new possibilities but "vision" was N's > > forte - a revaluation, > > not a devaluation. Mankind is something that must be > > formed. > > I would prefer to say that man is something to be > overcome. > > H's > > philosophy leads to a depersonalization in need of a > > new direction? > > A little depersonalization does us some good. Nothing > stinks more than ressentiment manifested in the form > of ressenitiment. To aspire to that which is in us > more than ourselves, to that will to power that can > never be called "I" but which is nonetheless my > "ownmost" being would be the ideal. > > Is > > this why H fell for the Nazi's? N warned him. Is H a > > hyper-relativist? > > No, he's not a hyper-relativist. How could any > transcendental philosopher be such? > > > How do you fit your N and H views together? If you > > objectify objectivity > > - phenomenology - don't you have something close to > > H? > > Good question. Thankfully I'm neither a Heideggerian > nor a Nietzschean. > > Warmest Regards, > > Paul > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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