From: "Jeanette Quick" <jelquick-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Nietzsche was an optimist Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:32:59 PST Interesting stance, Juan >From: Juan Cruz <juancarloscruz-AT-hotmail.com> >Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >Subject: Re: Nietzsche was an optimist >Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 06:14:34 PST > >IGNORE Jeanette. SHE IS an ELITIST BASTARD! ! ! > > >>From: Jeanette Quick <jelquick-AT-hotmail.com> >>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >>Subject: Re: Nietzsche was an optimist >>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:27:40 PST >> >>Nietzsche against Rand? The two are not wholly incompatible--indeed, Rand >>formed the basis of her philosophy along Nietzschean lines... in We the >>Living and even in the Fountainhead evidence of the influence of Nietzsche >>on Objectivism is readily apparent. The real break did not come until the >>second revision of The Fountainhead and, ultimately, in Atlas Shrugged... >>Their basic conflict is only in emotion as part of reason... which Rand >>did >>not agree with (... many of her characters are unemotional and their >>stoicism is seen almost as in ideal) while Nietzsche seems to hold that >>emotion is a part of reason. >> >>>From: "Evan A. Leeson" <evan-AT-monsterchops.com> >>>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >>>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >>>Subject: Re: Nietzsche was an optimist >>>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:53:04 -0800 >>> >>> >>>The type manifesting in Paul Bryant wrote >>> >>> >There is ample reason here to >>> > detest Nietzscheans, and perhaps even Nietzsche >>> > himself for rendering such slavish appropriations >>> > possible. >>> >>>I gather from this we are to detest - to hate, to loathe - Nietzsche for >>>the >>>'dangers inherent' in his works. Why would I want to spend any time doing >>>this? Do we want exact some revenge from the ghost of Nietzsche for the >>>horrors of the camps, or perhaps just for the way the Objectivist Society >>>on >>>campus keeps pitting Nietzsche against Rand. Do we reach a point where we >>>have loathed enough, hated sufficiently that we may then move on to dwell >>>solely on the beneficial insight of his work? Do we hate adequately, and >>>keep an accounting of that hating, so we may answer when confronted with >>>the >>>perenial 'what about the Nazis' question that we have hated Nietzsche 146 >>>units of hate and have thus expelled any culpability or complicity? Is >>>this >>>loathing a distilling process? Or is it an Augustinian device preventing >>>erection of too much yes-saying in the world? >>> >>>Perhaps I have misunderstood you. Perhaps I have mistakenly labelled you >>>reactive, and you are actually quite different, really after something >>>else >>>when you say we should detest Nietzsche. It may be that, like Hitler >>>strutting with Nietzsche's own walking stick, I have misinterpreted you >>>and >>>have used your words for some unintended purpose. For my error think I >>>shall >>>detest...you. >>> >>> >>>For the New Year - I still live, I still think: I still have to live for >>>I >>>still have to think. Sum, ergo cogito: cogito, ergo sum. Today everybody >>>permits himself the expression of his wish and his dearest thought: hence >>>I, >>>too, shall say what it is to run across my heart this year - what thought >>>shall be for me the reason, warranty, and sweetness of my life >>>henceforth. >>>I >>>want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in >>>things; >>>then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let >>>that >>>be my love henceforth! I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to >>>accuse >>>those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all >>>and >>>on the whole: some day I wish to be a Yes-sayer. >>> >>>GS 276 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- >>> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >> >> --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- from list nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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