Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:37:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Bryant <levi_bryant-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tips on how to be an overman


Rejecting the idea that there is a *formula* for
becoming an overman is *not* identical to *rejecting*
the idea that the becoming involved in the overman
necessarily includes discipline.  To say this is to
fall into a very oppositional mode of thinking.  While
it may be true that there is no one discipline for
becoming an overman, there is nonetheless a practice
of shoreing up one's active forces, of actively
forming them into an artwork, that requires a great
deal of discipline and practice.  This is the practice
of becoming a self, of individuating oneself in a
field of undifferentiated forces and tendencies, and
bringing these forces to the fullness of their
expressive power in a life.  Whether or not this
involves body building is another question. Clearly
the discipline involved in the overman is a discipline
of the body (since there is no disembodied subject in
Nietzsche), but it would be too much to say that it
must, but not enough to say that it does not.  In
other words, any disciplinary practice of
morphogenesis must necessarily involve the body in a
Nietzschean framework.  In this respect, the artist,
that's never lifted a weight in his life, nonetheless
practices a discipline of his body in actively forming
his perceptions and selecting among the differentiated
mass of sensible experience.  For this reason, it
would be more exact to say that the discipline of the
body *could* involve body building.  Personally I find
the whole body building connection fairly humorous in
connection to Nietzsche.  But this is a matter of
taste, not a necessary and sufficient position.

Paul 

--- Mrpanzer-AT-aol.com wrote:
> One must realize my dear Jeanette, that the page was
> made in order for one to 
> gain discipline.  Discipline is having control over
> you mind and body - to be 
> able to command them what to do and how.  You NEED
> this in order to be a 
> creator, to be the overman.  Nietzsche stresses one
> must be a tyrant with 
> one's drives and mind, to force them (like a General
> does his troops, read 
> Zarathustra On War and Warriors) to do what he wants
> - but mind you, he does 
> not destroy them.  Jeanette, darling, you must read
> Nietzsche more carefully! 
>  "Few words, much meaning - slippery ground many a
> she-ass has found!"
> 
> 
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