From: "Jeanette Quick" <jelquick-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: don't deny the real things in life,even the suffering
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:44:39 PST


Hmmm-- I never fancied myself a denyer of "the REAL things that make you 
great, like rational nutrition, weather, pure clean air."  If all you need 
to make yourself great is nutrition, weather and air--then GOD forbid me to 
deny you such rights.  Especially the "rational" nutrition that you seem to 
have found... as opposed to the ignorant, unelightened nutrition.  I, on the 
other hand, will live the superhuman existence you have given to me--without 
food, air, and weather.  I hardly thought it possible.  Thanks, Juan.


>From: Juan Cruz <juancarloscruz-AT-hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: don't deny the real things in life,even the suffering
>Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 07:21:35 PST
>
>Hey listen!! listen! people! listen to what Jennette wrote:
>  "Obeying your "discipline" for the sake of obeying,because YOU say it is
>right is probably the farthest step from individualism and
>self-individuation one could take.  By virtue of the fact that you are
>attempting to tell people, rather didactically, HOW to live their
>lives......"
>
>OK! I did not tell people what they SHOULD do, I'm NO higgity piggity
>monster that eats people if they don't follow my guidelines, HOWEVER, BUT,
>those guidelines are a A LOT better than eating and/or drinking yourself in
>front of a TV and/or bed. OK, I tried my best, my humble page is NOT that
>rational, but remember doesn't rationality kills man's desires?
>even Nietzsche said "act like childs" and in anotheer part he said:  ("What
>is good? everything that raises power, feeling of power, WHat is bad?
>everything that makes you weaker, and What is happiness? that power
>increases") AND SHE is a denyier of all the little things, the REAL things
>that make you great, like rational nutrition, weather, pure clean air in 
>the
>bedrooms, etc etc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Edward Moore <edwardmoore-AT-dellnet.com>
>>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>>Subject: Re: IGNORE Jeanette SHE IS A NAZI BASTARD! ! !
>>Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:54:10 -0800
>>
>>Oh for Christ's sake (of course, this is a Nietzsche list, and Christ is
>>anathema, but never mind) -- Let us review Nietzsche's _nous_ and not his
>>_nomos_ ...
>>
>>!!! I would love to pleasure Jeanette orally ... whaddaya say???
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Juan Cruz <juancarloscruz-AT-hotmail.com>
>>To: <nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 9:36 PM
>>Subject: Re: IGNORE Jeanette SHE IS A NAZI BASTARD! ! !
>>
>>
>> > YOU are tyrannizing too, when You are telling me that I should or I
>>should
>> > not. Oh another thing, to tyrannize is things of great men, they make
>> > inferior men feel stupid
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: Jeanette Quick <jelquick-AT-hotmail.com>
>> > >Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> > >To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> > >Subject: Re: IGNORE Jeanette SHE IS A NAZI BASTARD! ! !
>> > >Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:26:28 PST
>> > >
>> > >Hmm-- It seems you have become my microphone, as if I cannot speak for
>> > >myself.  If the reflection you were giving of me were close to being
>> > >accurate, I might not mind-- perhaps you could better articulate my
>> > >feelings
>> > >than I myself could--but the image you have portrayed incites nothing
>>more
>> > >than laughter and a wonder at where you come up with such comedy.  Are
>>you
>> > >a
>> > >comedian by trade, or does it come naturally?
>> > >
>> > >I never indicated that to be un-dogmatic one should "be a drug addict
>>or
>> > >alcoholic escapist."  In fact, I don't recall ever mentioning anything
>>as
>> > >far as indulging substances go.  I believe that one's decision to
>>abstain
>> > >from such pleasures should be an internal decision--an individual
>> > >decision--one which would hopefully "better" one and bring him/her
>>closer
>> > >to
>> > >Nietzsche's overman.  Obeying your "discipline" for the sake of
>>obeying,
>> > >because YOU say it is right is probably the farthest step from
>> > >individualism
>> > >and self-individuation one could take.  By virtue of the fact that you
>>are
>> > >attempting to tell people, rather didactically, HOW to live their 
>>lives
>>is
>> > >where your dogmatism, my dear friend, lies.  Perhaps you have found
>>your
>> > >organization to be beneficial to you, and the root of your
>>"enlightenment"
>> > >(although this state, in your case, would be highly questionable) is
>>the
>> > >webpage you have designed.  However, by instructing everyone to live 
>>in
>>the
>> > >same manner is an extremely tyrannical, self-inflationary stance.
>>--This
>> > >seems to be exactly the kind of person Nietzsche is adamantly against.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>From: Juan Cruz <juancarloscruz-AT-hotmail.com>
>> > >>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> > >>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> > >>Subject: Re: IGNORE Jeanette SHE IS A NAZI BASTARD! ! !
>> > >>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:34:18 PST
>> > >>
>> > >>the problem with Jeanette was that she confused the word dogma with
>> > >>discipline of the military school. You don't have to be a drug addict
>>or
>> > >>alcoholic escapist to be un-dogmatic or inmoral to any morality.
>>Nietzsche
>> > >>DID not mean we have to be crazy anarchists punks in order to be
>> > >>un-dogmatic
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>From: LightofMadness InMyEyes <crazedstalker-AT-hotbot.com>
>> > >>>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> > >>>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> > >>>Subject: Re: IGNORE Jeanette SHE IS A NAZI BASTARD! ! !
>> > >>>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:44:40 -0800
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Oh my god this is the perfect Nietzschean dialogue.  See, it has
>> > >>>pretensions to that Socratic quality Plato recorded for us, but
>>quickly
>> > >>>degenerates into sort of a cuisinart Vladimir and Estragon 
>>vaudeville
>>of
>> > >>>the tragic routine which surely pays the greatest honour to one of
>>the
>> > >>>finest qualities of the Nietzschean oevre, the comedic quality.
>> > >>>I pay homage to you all, I am not worthy.
>> > >>>For those willing to get super high in the in-step, remember that
>> > >>>interpretation is truth and nothing but power determines what truth
>>is
>> > >>>Truth.
>> > >>>San Dimas High School Football Rules!
>> > >>>   -- margret
>> > >>>---
>> > >>>"There are stones buried in your soul,
>> > >>>and only a fool would blame the death of rock and roll." -- Thomas
>>Dolby
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:00:51   Syphon Soul wrote:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >  Now... that was a silly thing to say...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
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