From: "Juan Cruz" <juancarloscruz-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dualism
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:28:19 PDT


the nervous system might be the soul


>From: "Chand B. Rangwani" <indi_orpheus-AT-crosswinds.net>
>Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: Dualism
>Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:27:18 +0530
>
>You say am I dualist? No, for me  the body is everything. There is no mind. 
>It
>is just a mnemonic we use for non-physiological physical happenings within 
>the
>brain -  also known as  "thoughts."
>
>Jonathan asked about conceiving cause and effect, don't we do it, yes, but 
>we
>struggle to conceive `cause-effect. To see history at a glance, to see 
>tomorrow
>and present as a continuum - not mentally, but physiologically. Time as
>indivisible, so that the past and the present and the future coexist.
>
>To have the eyes that see time - like they see a distance 10 feet behind, 
>ten
>feet forward and the ground beneath our feet. Is this fantastic? Does time
>really not exist. Perhaps. But if time doesn't exist and is represented 
>only as
>space, that should make our task easier.
>
>Only the most disciplined who integrate their pasts (`invent their souls' 
>as Nz
>would have it) are capable of seeing the past in continuum with the 
>present, but
>that too fleetingly, and only in some aspects. Someone please read  a 
>quantum
>theory called `transactional interpretation" or  which says that time waves
>actually travel backwrds time. And Indian shamans have always said that it 
>is
>possible for man to log on to these waves.
>
>I know this is mumbo jumbo at this stage but all I can say today is that 
>you too
>should start by throwing away your wristwatch, friend,  and then you too 
>will
>know happiness
>
>
>
>Juan Cruz wrote:
>
> > are you a dualist? like Descartes who said that the body is not part of 
>us?
> > But part of the material world? External to us? And that the soul is the
> > only thing which belongs to us?
> >
> > >From: "Chand B. Rangwani" <indi_orpheus-AT-crosswinds.net>
> > >Reply-To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > >To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > >Subject: Re: Can we create the overman?
> > >Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 01:08:32 +0530
> > >
> > >Genetics is our only hope. Here in India we have realised that the
> > >intelligent
> > >don't breed a third as much as the peasants. Simple fucking and waiting 
>for
> > >natural
> > >selection to do its thing will not make an overman. Evolution doesn't 
>work
> > >progressively. Too diffuse! In any case, any more brains and we might 
>go
> > >extinct!
> > >
> > >Do we even have a syllabus for what constitutes an overman? I think we 
>need
> > >to know
> > >what we want, before we can figure out the technics of getting there. 
>Being
> > >energetic or stronger and doing more bench presses and eating
> > >carbs/proteins/fats
> > >60:30:10 will not make us the superman. And for the life of me, I can't
> > >objectify
> > >Nz's `spiritually fittest' overman. What physical modifications in man
> > >would
> > >make.him spiritually stronger?
> > >
> > >Genetics can do a lot. It can give us the haemoglobin of an alligator 
>to
> > >increase
> > >our oxygen-carrying capacity. We can run and swim longer and faster.
> > >
> > >Genetics can give us, like I said earlier, a rechargeable dick. 
>Probably a
> > >hermaphroditic cunt too, if you get as sick of women as Nz did at 
>times.
> > >(It will
> > >save me a lot of money, too)
> > >
> > >Genetics can make us hibernate for centuries. Stronger muscles, a
> > >350-year-life-span, 7-foot frame, lots of stuff.
> > >
> > >But the mind? That's where the key lies. As I said before, 
>consciousness of
> > >time -
> > >like of the other 3 dimensions  - is a must. We have all felt vague 
>time
> > >warps in
> > >our dreams, but is this a hallucination or a possible reality. We are 
>still
> > >evolving and ES'P (or the ability to read receding time waves) can be
> > >possible.
> > >Yes, I know it's junk for many, but as Nietzscheans we have only the 
>here
> > >and now
> > >to speculate within..
> > >
> > >What else can we do to the mind that will enlarge our consciousness? 
>Follow
> > >the
> > >course of monkey to ape to man and let me know quick - I am sick of 
>man!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Syphon Soul wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wonder, is it possible for us through technology or dicipline, or
> > >whatnot, to
> > > > create an overman?
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts would well be savioured.
> > > >
> > > > Haakon Engen
> > > >
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