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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:34:17 +0000
From: Ruth Chandler <R.Chandler-AT-ucc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: I want information


ah lamda.c-what a refreshing change from your more usual obnoxious self-since when was 'motherly' a swear word in its own right, by the way?- oops, could it be to do with when someone quite famous, someone who could not possibly merit sustained discussion on this list, reckoned that his most abysmal thought was the eternal return of his mother and sister? N's dithyramb, On the Poverty of the Richest Man, tells another story... 

    for the student that sent the initial enquiry- there are also texts investigating N's relation to buddhism (think its David Loys) and to jewish thought ( can't remember who offhand but try a library search under key terms?) Klossowski's Nietzsche and the Vicious Circle is worth reading in relation to nirvana principle.

Holingdale has written on N's alleged indebtedness to Luther ( my own view is N is lot more wittingly ironic about this than H thinks but, at least, this gives you the basic comparative points)

alternatively, its sometimes worth ignoring all the secondary lit altogether and, taking what you know about religion yourself into a reading of N. while it is a common view that Z has very little to do with Zoroasterism, the narrative 'structure' of Z plays around with most of the basic principles, the different kinds of fire most especially,  and the notion of gift giving N uses makes little sense without his inversions of Zoroasterian gift giving 

ruth.c

>>> <lambdac-AT-globalserve.net> 10/28 3:05 pm >>>
Mary, diane davis, we need no motherly primary grade teachers in this list,
with their shithead recommendations!

Ah, but it is english and Texas...

Diane Davis wrote:

> Jesus, brian stansberry, you're grumpy as hell this morning. Are you
> always grumpy?
>
> Sebastian, I'm assuming you're hoping for secondary source
> recommendations on this issue? Is that correct? I'm also assuming that
> if you're writing a thesis (an undergrad thesis? An MA? a PhD?) you've
> read the obvious primary sources, such as Genealogy of Morals, Gay
> Science, Beyond good and evil, etc. Correct?
>
> One secondary source that comes to mind is Tim Murphy's book:
> _Nietzsche, Metaphor, Religion_, which is on N's philosophy of religion.
> There's another called _ Contesting Spirit: Nietzsche, Affirmation,
> Religion_ by Tyler Roberts.  And I saw another one recently called
> _Nietzsche and the Divine_, a collection edited by Lippitt and Urpeth,
> that looks pretty good. There's a start. Good luck.
>
> Best, ddd
>
> ____________________________________________
>   D. Diane Davis
>   Division of Rhetoric and Composition
>   Department of English
>   University of Texas at Austin
>   PARLIN 227  (512-471-8765)
>   Austin TX 78712-1122
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu [mailto:owner-
> > nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu] On Behalf Of BRIAN M. STANSBERRY
> > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 6:17 AM
> > To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu 
> > Subject: Re: I want information
> >
> >
> > How about this -- how about you get off your lazy ass and STUDY it for
> > a change?
> >
> > You can start by learning how to spell "Nietzsche".
> >
> >
> > > From: Sebastian Leah <lyan_kurams-AT-yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > hELOO
> > >
> > >    I Am a girl from south east asia seeking for information about
> Nietzche's belief in life
> > specially in religion and about faith. I am now writting a thesis
> about this. May I request
> > this infornation be sent on or befor November 5. THANK YOU.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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