File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_2001/nietzsche.0110, message 76


From: "jasper beckeringh" <j.beckeringh-AT-chello.nl>
Subject: Re: Ruthie and ddd
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:26:06 +0100


Have you kids ever figured out that maybe if you have problems with a
certain person you could just email that person instead of the list? Now
there is a wild idea huh?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Chandler" <R.Chandler-AT-ucc.ac.uk>
To: <nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Ruthie and ddd


>
>
> >>> <lambdac-AT-globalserve.net> 10/29 7:23 pm >>>
> oh ruthie, ruthie -
>
> We know just how eager you are to get it going with us and other sisters
and queers.
>
> no lamsie-sweetie-don't put yourself in same composite as my queer
friends- not keen on sisters tho -too equivocal
>
>
>  Our abuse arouses you.
>
> hmm-yours doesn't because its not very clever- improve your style and
perhaps-i do enjoy fighting with good enemies, enemies i respect
>
>  You try to ingratiate yourself by repudiating Derrida.
>
> why should i want to ingratiate myself with you? i said repsected enemies
>
>  And you love the venimous tripe.
>
> sometimes!
>
>  You're a put on.
>
> woman is so artistic
>
> ruth.c
>
> Lamb Da Rack
>
> NB - never written anything on LambRack et al...
>
>
>
> Ruth Chandler wrote:
>
> > thanks, lamda.c, for the reminder of why it is i am making a feminist
reading of N-  you are too swift to diagnose, as it happens, i would not be
able to submit a thesis if i did not know how to spell check-it is an access
issue on writing email post  because each takes longer that's all- i don't
bother to spell check on d and g because, hard won, there is some acceptance
of my wonky grammar and idiosyncratic spelling- i bother here because of
abuse from assholes like yourself-this generally tends to be more time
consuming than spell checking.
> >
> > why bother with all this venemous tripe?-if you had read my post to
diane you would have noted that i am not keen on derrida-i just like to keep
up with what his arguments are because i need to know them-you don't need to
descend to this level- you've written some quite fascinating posts in the
past-i would like to read something from you again on the relations between
Nietzsche, Lamrak et al because this was interesting.
> >
> > this kind of exchange is not interesting.
> >
> > c'mon' lamsie, you can make it to sorcerer if you really try!
> >
> > ruth.c
> >
> > n.b i don't think that arguing that feminism(s) should will their own
deaths as a necessary mode of social critique is the least bit oedipal- if
it is, i have encountered a distinct lack of sisterhood for these views.
> >
> > >>> <lambdac-AT-globalserve.net> 10/29 4:13 pm >>>
> > C'mon here little doggie - oops, you're a femmie thing, sorry, mistake
with you on all fours and all.  Yes, it is a common condition of Derrida
readers - reduced to radical bitchiism.  Double distilled deionized diane
davis with puppy ruthie miraculously cured.  On a leash.  On a derrida
lecture.
> >
> > WHO the fuck cares about derrida?  Shithead feminists who want to wean
Nietzsche.  German (oh yes!) frauleins agitating their worthless english
diplomas.  Oiling all the orifices.  All to delimit Nietzsche's
misogyny...Oh oedipal transfection!
> >
> > Yes, Lambda Caramel.   votre service.
> >
> > Ruth Chandler wrote:
> >
> > > hi diane,
> > > what did derrida argue exactly ? has he moved on much from the
politics of friendship stuff? that text positions N's women as a teleopoetic
'fringe' which is quite an interesting move from the early castrated,
castrating and affirming strategems-perhaps picking up on some of the ear of
the other arguments-i'm not much of a derrida fan as a reader of N- i think
he misses the extent to which grammar does not go all the way down for N i.e
writing as a becoming shallower, meaner etc does not sit well with Derrida's
attempts to uses 'woman' as a strategem to delimit the field of N's
misogyny-not that that isn't worth doing though ...
> > > ruth.c
> > >
> > > >>> Diane Davis <d-davis-AT-uiowa.edu> 10/29 10:59 am >>>
> > > > While I'm doing this can somebody please fill me in on this 'Diane
> > > Davis' character? I think
> > > > I missed a meeting...
> > >
> > >
> > > ddd(ionysius)
> > > roars
> > > with
> > > laughter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Btw, in more interesting news (which wouldn't take much), I was in NYC
a
> > > coupla weeks ago to catch Derrida's lectures on forgiveness at NYU,
and
> > > while I was there I got to hear Avital Ronell give an incredible
keynote
> > > address at Cardozo Law School's N conference on N's experimental
> > > disposition. Derrida was the respondant. Really rigorous and
fascinating
> > > stuff. On the other hand, in most of the papers given at that same
> > > conference N came out really laundered, safe, systematized.  (In one
> > > paper someone actually referred to "Nietzsche's system.") Much of the
> > > conference seemed an exercise in taking out a radical.
> > >
> > > ~ddd
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________
> > >   D. Diane Davis
> > >   Division of Rhetoric and Composition
> > >   Department of English
> > >   University of Texas at Austin
> > >   PARLIN 227  (512-471-8765)
> > >   Austin TX 78712-1122
> > >
> > >   ddd-AT-mail.utexas.edu
> > >   http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~davis
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu [mailto:owner-
> > > > nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu] On Behalf Of cameron
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:09 AM
> > > > To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > > > Subject: way to go!
> > > >
> > > > Hey why not? Let's all jump on the bandwagon and pay homage to
> > > mediocrity...after all, it's
> > > > not THAT often that exciting conversations pop up. For example, I've
> > > never posted here
> > > > before - hardly ever been sent stuff. We'll just need to lower our
> > > standards, right? That'll put
> > > > this list on the map!
> > > >
> > > > While I'm doing this can somebody please fill me in on this 'Diane
> > > Davis' character? I think
> > > > I missed a meeting...
> > > >
> > > > Cameron Frost
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >> what does all this dialogue have to do with nietschze? it is just
> > > > >> wasting time and space. If you have nothing to say or ask about
> > > > >> nietszche then please go away and waste your time on something
> > > else.
> > > >
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