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Subject: RE: Of the Three Metamorphoses
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:27:30 +0530


I agree to Nathan.
In addition to what he says about forgetfulness of children, which helps
them reinvent themselves, they also lack the preconceived notion/definition
of most of the things. And hence they seldom feel like sticking to things
and make  thing temporary in such way as to 'really' live in present.
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Subject:  RE: Of the Three Metamorphoses


Basically the child is innocent not by being pure (for no one and no thing
is
pure) but because the child forgets.  Think about little kids when they
have
fights and each says "I'm never playing with you again" -- in about 15
minutes
they're playing again.  When their parents get into a fight, though, and
say
"I'm never going to speak to you again", they never speak to each other
again.
 The parents are sunk in ressentiment; the innocent forgetting of the child
is
a path to overcoming.

Nathan



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Juan Ciriza <jciriza-AT-yahoo.com>
>Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 03:54:29 -0800 (PST)
>To: nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Of the Three Metamorphoses
>
>
>> Hi everyone:
>>
>> This is my first post to this list and I just wanted to ask something
that
>> is probably a very basic question, but anyways, there it goes:
>>
>> In Z's Part One, Z's discourses, the first one is named 'Of the Three
>> Metamorphoses':
>> "I name you three metamorphoses of the spirit: how the spirit shall
become
a
>> camel, and the camel a lion, and the lion at last a child."
>>
>> The thing is that I find quite clear and elaborated the first and second
>> metamorphoses of the spirit (camel and lion) but rather obscure the last
one
>> (child), where I find N didn't elaborate his concept of a child as much
as
the
>> previous ones. He just names a few 'features' that such a spirit
should/would
>> have, such as innocence, forgetfulness, etc. Could anyone point me in
the
right
>> direction? (either other works of Nietzsche or comments found somewhere
else).
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance.
>>
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Dr. Nathan Widder
Lecturer in Political Theory
University of Exeter
Exeter  EX4 4RJ
United Kingdom
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MA in Critical Global Studies:
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