From: "Paul Murphy" <Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: equivalences
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:07:28 +0200



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From: "Jason Hudgins" <thanatos-AT-incantations.net>
To: <nietzsche-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: equivalences


> i both agree and disagree with you depending on the context
> of the criticism.  for example, i'm was opposed to the U.S.
> intervention in Kosovo.  i'd say that in no  way should a comparitive
> analysis of nations be used as an apology for this specific event.
>
> on the otherhand, when making criticisms of a nation of a whole,
> upon it's history, i think a comparitive analysis contrasting
> with other nations, both present and historic, is entirely valid.  for
> example, if you constrast the USSR and the USA in the 20th
> century as a whole, i'm definitily of the opinion that the USA was
> a more "moral" nation.  this of course is completly based on my
> own moral code, which of course might differ from others.
well, what is your moral code, Jason?  I think to say it was more moral is
nonsense, you might have said that Capitalism was more progressive, and
explain why this was.  And also explain (because none of you seem to want to
acknowledge this at all) why Communism failed?  Except that it was 'the evil
empire' or somesuch McCarthyite claptrap you don't have much to say.
PM
>
> --jason
>
> > i mean that saying 'things are better here than anywhere else' is a way
of
> deflecting criticism much akin to a remark like: 'oh you don't like the US
> military? well go live in iraq.' historical context is always important
> like, how are our daily lives different from ancient romans? or, what did
> this empire learn from previous ones? but if we begin to rate
civilizations,
> and situate a value-hierarchy based on unquestioned status quo
assumptions,
> then we've reified facsist mentalities which need ferreting out.    :kev
>
>
> > On 12 Jul 2002 17:55:29 -040   Jason Hudgins wrote:
> > >
> > >> comparative analysises of civilizations must never obstruct the
> political
> > >> critique of the society in which one lives.
> > >
> > >please define the context in which your using the term "obstruct"? do
> > >you mean influence, refute, or something else?
> > >
> > >--jason
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