File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_2002/nietzsche.0207, message 61


Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:10:59 -0500
From: "Kevin Sanchez" <heliogabalus-AT-eudoramail.com>
Subject: Re: complicity


i dont live on a mountain, i live in texas. and what i see is that my sales tax goes to execute mentally disabled folks who have drunk lawyers for public defenders. and my friends' and family member's income tax goes to build bombs which apologists like you, Eric, claim are needed even though they indiscriminately kill children and noncombatants (a justification for terrorism). the genocidal US foreign policies of the last century are continuing and will continue to karmically entail the mass murder of many americans, like those who died on 911. now you can laugh at that, if you like, or nonchalantly brush terrorism off as a tragic reality, and say, 'so it goes, so it goes'. but (for fucking once) i think you'll find yourself in the minority here - dubya's rhetoric takes these matters quite seriously, and americans consider 911 serious enough to kill for. the truth of why the US military (and its taxpayers which fund it) are so hated throughout the world is being hidden from americans - the historical context of this imperialistic theocracy is being drowned out in an indunation of ultra-nationalistic apologism. to expose this propaganda is to realize that tragic realities are MADE, and are *not* just 'the way of things' that folks should shrug their shoulder at and then submit to without question. i'm not fantasizing about demons; i'm displaying the demonic face of those who place profit above people and do so (criminally) with a rhetoric of 'one nation, under god, with liberty and justice for all'. part of what the n.s.a. spends its 30 bil on is drawing up contingency plans which basically say, 'here's what the US wants and if such and such occurs we will spin it this way so as to justify this military campaign in the eyes of the public' ... 'if john glen's first manned mission into space fails, then we'll blame it on the cubans' (thats a contingency plan thats already public record) - 'if a terrorist attack happens here by this group, we'll use it to invade this country and to get the following' etc. - the US overthrew the taliban for one reason: to install a government that would let the US build a caspian oil and natural gas pipeline to the largest un-tapped reserves on the planet. the deaths of thousands of americans who died on 911 were exploited to accomplish this neo-colonialist aim. if the US wanted to liberate womyn, perhaps it would have followed the recommendations of the womyn who have struggled for 20 years in afghanistan and *not* carried out a campaign of ariel bombing which has killed thousands of innocent civilians. their deaths, like those of 911, do not fit into the wartime calculations of butchers like bin laden and bush. eric, as a human being, why do you surrender your soul to such terrorist logic? is coming to grips with the tragic reality that you fund a facsist regime simply too much to ask?    :kev

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On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:31:27    Scribe1865 wrote:
>In a message dated 7-9-2002 12:02:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>heliogabalus-AT-eudoramail.com writes:
>
>
>> this person is trying to remove blame from his complicity in certain 
>> atrocities - that's what you're doing, eric. yes
>
>Nietzsche in _Zarathustra_, ("Reading & Writing"): 
>
>       "He who climbs on the highest mountains, laughs at all tragic plays 
>and tragic realities."
>
>Civilian deaths in wartime are a tragic reality. Having not yet climbed the 
>highest mountains, I prefer to regard them without laughing. 
>
>Still it's better to really look at tragic realities than to fantasize about >demons, to blindly posit the concentration of malefaction in the USA. That's 
>what you are doing Kevin. As Emerson said, "Thy charity abroad is spite at 
>home."
>
>Eric
>NYC


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