File spoon-archives/nietzsche.archive/nietzsche_2003/nietzsche.0311, message 21


Subject: Re: cruelty versus revenge CORRECTION
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:01:42 -0700


Z, "On Redemption": "revenge is the will's ill will against time and its 'it
was.'"

N also says that "spirit of revenge is the subject of man's best
reflection," which I interpret to mean the formation of abstract concepts.
Concepts, reflected in reason, unlike the perceptible body, do not suffer
death, but can "live" through the vagaries of time. However, due to their
non-perceptual and general nature, something is always lost in the act of
abstraction: that which is itself subject to change--becomming--time. Great
object lesson in this lies in the film Memento.

d.

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Subject: Re: cruelty versus revenge CORRECTION


> In a message dated 11/6/2003 12:42:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Scribe1865-AT-aol.com writes:
>
>
> > My take on cruelty is that it is the act of reducing one's victim to an
> > object. Think of a sadistic child tormenting an animal, for example.
(This
> > type of
> > childhood sadism is often linked to the development of a sociopathic
> > personality disorder, a disorder characterized by an ability to perceive
the
> > reality of
> > others, albeit with a marked ability to "imitate" their outward tokens
of
> > inner life.)
>
> That SHOULD read: a disorder characterized by an INABILITY to perceive ...
>
> Social cruelty,  the "festival of cruelty," gives its participants a sense
of
> fusion with a cruel god -- the same cruel god that has made them powerless
> allows them to become powerful by participating in an act of cruelty.
>
> One idea anyway ....
>
> Eric
>
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