Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 10:38:26 -0500
From: Reg Lilly <rlilly-AT-scott.skidmore.edu>
Subject: Re: PLC: Aletheia 


Walter,
	I find myself, oddly, 'coming back' to phenomenological thought more in my old
age (must me a mid-life crisis!) and (this may sound strange) I think that in
many respects Derrida is more of a phenomenologist than the later Heidegger. 
Heidegger loses a lot of people with the 'turn,' perhaps in the same way Husserl
lost a lot of people with his transcendental turn to the phenomenology of reason
and the transcendental ego in Ideas I.  Neverthless, I think that the later
Heidegger is in many respects not so remote from the Heidegger of Being and
Time, i.e., Heidegger the phenomenologist.  To be shamelessly self-promotional,
his _The Principle of Reason_ (tr. me) is, I think, a good phenomenology of the
experience with which we are all familiar, namely, the experience of 'having to
give' or 'wanting to get at' reasons -- the experience of life that moves within
the medium of reason.  If you'd like to talk about some of the later stuff, I'd
be happy to; if not, on to something else!

Reg

Walter Okshevsky wrote:
> 
> Reg --
> Not at all - it's quite clear. I guess I just prefer the
> early phenomenological H to the later stuff which I never could
> understand. Something happened soon after the period of "The age of the
> world-picture" - a turn I could never follow.
> Best wishes,
> W
> 
> Walter C. Okshevsky
> Memorial University
> ==========================================================================> 
> On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Reg Lilly wrote:
> 
> > Walter,
> >       You've got me pegged pretty much right.  Herr Headgear's notion of
> > Erschlossenheit.  The early Tugendhat (when attended his classes in the 70's)
> > wasn't yet so down on Heidegger as he later became.  But I believe there are
> > philosophical encycopediae that include aletheic truth as a theory of truth.  I
> > would hesitate to make it a theory of meaning (Bedeutung, Sinn) for at least one
> > reason.  Heidegger early on was after the Sinn des Seins, the meaning of Being,
> > but he pretty much leaves this behind with his "turn" in the 30's and 40's, so
> > that in the end, aletheia has to do with Ereignis/Enteignis, the
> > happening-disclosure of being and really can't be thought any longer in terms of
> > meaning.  So, although what you say below fits well with Being and Time, I would
> > suggest that the aletheic notion of truth goes well beyond what can be thought
> > of in its terms.  I've been rushed here -- sorry if I'm not being clear.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Reg
> >
> > Walter Okshevsky wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Reg Lilly wrote:
> > > snip
> > > >       'Truth' is perhaps more difficult.  But let me suggest that there are several
> > > > conceptions of truth -- the correpondence theory, the coherence theory, and the
> > > > alethetic theory.  Derrida would, for reasons similar to his critique of
> > > > meaning, criticize the first two (their just too idealistic!), and would hold,
> > > > in a Heideggerian manner, to the latter.  He certainly doesn't want to say that
> > >
> > > Reg --
> > > Regarding your theories of truth, I've heard of the first two but not the
> > > "alethetic".  By this are you referring to Heidegger's  - or Headgear's
> > > (priceless!) -  notion of truth as "unconcealment" or "disclosure"
> > > (Erschlossenheit)? If so, is this really a theory of "truth" at all. (Some
> > > writers, Pietersma and Tugendhat, for example, claim H. to be completely
> > > confused here.) Wouldn't it be better thought of as a theory of meaning -
> > > one according to which entities are disclosed in their significance via
> > > their position within referential contexts of agency?
> > > I haven't looked at this literature for some time now, so please take it
> > > slowly.
> > > Best,
> > > W
> > >
> > > Walter C. Okshevsky
> > > Memorial University
> > >
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