Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:06:56 -0500
From: George Trail <gtrail-AT-UH.EDU>
Subject: Re:PLC: LA: 3b Re: so you like namecalling?


>This may be one post too many on the subject but consider this:
>	1)John's post was clearly mistakenly posted to the phil-lit list,
>and I think a
>generous (and self-reflective) spirit would forgive the excessive candor that
>occurs in private conversations but just doesn't play in Peoria.  So, I
>wouldn't
>make too much out of it, nor should John 'begrudge' the concomitant ripples of
>his mistaken plunge into public waters.
>	2)I don't think Pat was accusing John of not being an American, but
>speculating
>that its possible that someone in Japan could be Japanese born and have an
>Irish
>name -- happens a lot the other way 'round in the states. If John were
>Japanese
>contrary to expectations, the cultural difference would be worth considering.
>	3)"whine" and "snivel" are close enough, rhetorically speaking,
>such that I'd
>have a hard time saying clearly to a non-native speaker exactly what the
>difference is, though clearly they are.  If there's a dispute, let's formulate
>the real terms and not do battle through symbolic proxies.
>	4) everone take a deep breath and think of their first kiss -- then
>post.
>
>Reg


Reg, rescue us not yet. (note the heading I have added for those who do not
subscribe to the "in vino veritas" notion, a measure to supplement your
admirable suggestion of the "la" addition to the subject line. It indicates
3 beverages at the point of my intersection with the question. So, it is no
longer a question of my limit, it is a question of the list member's filter
cutoff.

I would urge both you and the man whom mr w-B had the wit to describe as
"wet behind the ears," (we will leave the fecal invocation to, uh, higher
toned lists) to lighten up on the subject. He did, after all, cite the
number three English user in print (Mr JJ) which argues for a certain
lattitude of tolerance for his otherwise trog views.

I suggest that the man was being, funny. That we all are up-tight on
waggery. Especially the former boy-scouts (or even present scout leaders)
who are twi-listed.

everything for art, but not a cent for manners,
g






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