File spoon-archives/phillitcrit.archive/phillitcrit_1997/phillitcrit.9711, message 938


Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:53:34 -0800 (PST)
From: James Ralph Westfall <jwest-AT-ea.oac.uci.edu>
Subject: PLC: Plato-Socrates' prick (was MotduJour:"gull")


On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 Greg wrote:

> > Check out for
> >  example the passage about dopey antiquarians collecting bits and pieces of
> >  ruins and broken statuary, including a little piece they find that turns
> out
> >  to be from a statue of Plato -- only it's nothing but his "privy member,"
> >  that's all! (I don't recall all the details -- haven't read it in 10 years
> >  -- but "you could look it up.") Don't be drinking tea or coffee while you
> >  read this stuff or you will do a spit-take for sure.

This is hillarious. I'm not sure what to make of this in light of Lacan's
speculations on Socrates' prick, made in reference to Plato's "Symposium": 

Included in the objet a is the...inestimable treasure that Alcibiades
declares is contained in the rustic box that for him Socrates' face
represents. But let us observe that it bears the sign (-). It is because
he has not seen Socrates' prick, if I may be permitted to to follow Plato,
who does not spare us the details, that Alcibiades the seducer exalts in
him the...marvel that he would like Socrates to cede to him in avowing his
desire: the division of the subject that he bears within himself being
admitted with great clarity on this occasion.

James



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