Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:15:22 -0500
From: "George Y. Trail" <gtrail-AT-UH.EDU>
Subject: Re: PLC: Marxist Propaganda


And yet. . ., you bit anyway.  Your "more recent example" was a
statement of _appreciation_ made as an exaggeration of the deliberately
flamboyant tone of the post it was a comment on. There was nothing snide
about it. I wrote: "I don't have the foggiest. How about 'Your usual
perspicacity'?" Find anything childish about that?  

Fifty eight, not fifty four.  

One of the reasons I asked how a 58 year old "sounds" was that your
inability to discern irony goes hand in glove with your inability to
_hear_ tone. Several people are  having fun right now on this list
playing with language. Having been accused of pomposity we note here a
kind of outpompousing contest in reply. You want to see some pompous?
How about the utterly humorless "But then, age has little to do with
maturity." 

If you see language play as evidence of immaturity I would suggest
staying away from Joyce, who noted delightedly when told that his puns
were trivial, that they indeed were, and some even quadrivial (playing,
I'm sure you recognize (in the vast maturity that allows you pronounce
on immaturity by simply quoting what you take as an example) on the
medieval curriculum, composed of the "trivium" [grammar, logic, and
rhetoric]  and the "quadrivium," [geometry, astronomy, arithmetic, and music].

And you might ask yourself the next time you find something "immature"
or "childish" if you have failed to recognize that it's, like, a joke
(hear any valleyspeak tone there?) Did you like the pun on _ad Hominem_?
Did you "hear" it. 
g  

zatavu-AT-excite.com wrote:

> 
> I know it is not meant to be answered, and yet...
> 
> I would say it was things like "Troyboy" and other immature turns of phrase
> - though mostly it was your predilection for ad hominem attacks where you
> used those immature turns of phrase that made me certain, after having been
> in such discussions before on the Net, that you were in your early twenties
> at the oldest.
> 
> >From a more recent example, you, from RE: Nobel Bill:
> 
> Whoah, farm out man. Take another suck on the pipe.
> 
> Some very mature rhetoric there... In my experience in these kinds of
> groups, that is the kind of thing said by immature people who like to come
> onto these things and spout off about things they know nothing about, but
> who get on just to cause trouble. That has been the tone of the vast
> majority of your postings, and not just your postings to me. You rarely have
> anything substantial to add, just some immature, snide comment to make about
> whatever the topic is. That is why I believed you to be several years
> younger than me. Certainly not 54. But then, age has little to do with
> maturity.
> 
> Troy Camplin
> >
> >  zatavu-AT-excite.com wrote:
> >  >
> >  > On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:27:18 -0500,
> phillitcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> >  > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > >  I don't have the foggiest. How about "Your usual perspicacity"?
> >  > >
> >  > >  I was born in '42. If you are 29 you would have been born in 71 or
> >  > >  thereabouts. I had by then had a Ph.D. for three years.
> >  > >
> >  > >  zzzzz,
> >  > >  g
> >  >
> >  > then please explain to me why when you write, it sounds like you are
> closer
> >  > to 20 than 58? Your prose style is often very childish. DOn't take this
> as a
> >  > personal attack, only as an observation. That's why I assumed I was
> much
> >  > older than you. Your arguments usually have the same flavor as well.
> >  >
> >  > Troy Camplin
> >  > >
> >
> >
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