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From: "bob scheetz" <rscheetz-AT-cboss.com>
Subject: Re: PLC: Marxist Propaganda
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:10:03 -0400


hh,
 i only wrote a paltry few lines containing 
a very circumscribed argument,
you might have considered actually responding to it
over striking a pretentious pose.

also i notice you consider having conventional generalities
absolves one from the burdern of chap & verse.
...but anyway, who told you this was a mla list?
...better save the pedantry stuff for the kids.

bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Hastings <hhasting-AT-osf1.gmu.edu>
To: <phillitcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: PLC: Marxist Propaganda


> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, bob scheetz wrote:
>
> > can't cite any speech (are hitler's speeches available in english?)
> > but troy is right; the core of marxism, worker-class essence, and class
war
> > with capitalism, are identical.  and, fer sure, you can't read mein
kampf
> > without being struck by the comparison with lenin.
>
> Er, wait a minute. I have read Mein Kampf very carefully.  I was not
> struck by any comparison with Lenin.  Hitler was a racist idealist who
> admired the catholic church and blamed jews for Germany's troubles and
> thought life was a Darwinian struggle between races and hoped
> Germans could enslave other races.  Lenin was an internationalist who
> opposed WWI, a dialectical materialist who extended Marxist analyses to
> the practical problems of revolution and to 20th century imperialism.  He
> was motivated by a belief in the fundamental equality of all humans and a
> desire to end suffering and exploitation of one group by another.
>
> Then there is the fact that Lenin was extremely well read and a very
> careful thinker, while Hitler was rather ignorant and kind of a ranting
> ignoramus whenever he talked about "history."
>
> If you say "Troy was right" then you are saying that Hitler claimed the
> Nazi state was a realization of Marxism and, like him, you offer no proof
> other than generalities which do not bear close exmaination.  In the
> U.S.,all manner of nonsense about Marx and Lenin circulate in the press
> and schools without being contested, so many come to "know" what Marx and
> lenin did and said without actually having to read them ore hear from
> Marxists and Marxist-leninists.
>
>
>
> hh
> .....................................................................
>
>
>
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