From: "bob scheetz" <rscheetz-AT-cboss.com> Subject: Re: PLC: Marxist Propaganda Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:10:03 -0400 hh, i only wrote a paltry few lines containing a very circumscribed argument, you might have considered actually responding to it over striking a pretentious pose. also i notice you consider having conventional generalities absolves one from the burdern of chap & verse. ...but anyway, who told you this was a mla list? ...better save the pedantry stuff for the kids. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Hastings <hhasting-AT-osf1.gmu.edu> To: <phillitcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:34 AM Subject: Re: PLC: Marxist Propaganda > On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, bob scheetz wrote: > > > can't cite any speech (are hitler's speeches available in english?) > > but troy is right; the core of marxism, worker-class essence, and class war > > with capitalism, are identical. and, fer sure, you can't read mein kampf > > without being struck by the comparison with lenin. > > Er, wait a minute. I have read Mein Kampf very carefully. I was not > struck by any comparison with Lenin. Hitler was a racist idealist who > admired the catholic church and blamed jews for Germany's troubles and > thought life was a Darwinian struggle between races and hoped > Germans could enslave other races. Lenin was an internationalist who > opposed WWI, a dialectical materialist who extended Marxist analyses to > the practical problems of revolution and to 20th century imperialism. He > was motivated by a belief in the fundamental equality of all humans and a > desire to end suffering and exploitation of one group by another. > > Then there is the fact that Lenin was extremely well read and a very > careful thinker, while Hitler was rather ignorant and kind of a ranting > ignoramus whenever he talked about "history." > > If you say "Troy was right" then you are saying that Hitler claimed the > Nazi state was a realization of Marxism and, like him, you offer no proof > other than generalities which do not bear close exmaination. In the > U.S.,all manner of nonsense about Marx and Lenin circulate in the press > and schools without being contested, so many come to "know" what Marx and > lenin did and said without actually having to read them ore hear from > Marxists and Marxist-leninists. > > > > hh > ..................................................................... > > > > --- from list phillitcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list phillitcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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