Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: spencer <spencerpdx-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [postanarchism] Zizek Sells Out to Abercrombie and Fitch


one cannot "become" within the spectacle. you are
giving aesthetics ontological priviledge, even when
they oppress human activity. this is not morality,
although it may be a form of ethics. go read Debord.

--- LANDERS123-AT-aol.com wrote:
> I'm thinking that the concept of "selling out"
> belongs to morality in that someone is said to be
> backing the wrong "side." The concept of selling out
> also seems to belong to a transcendant ontology,
> since a judgment is being made (from a necessarily
> external place) about the proper places of things in
> a hierarchy.  In an immanent ontology as described
> by Deleuze, on the other hand, I believe it's a
> question of whether being is interfering with or
> supporting becoming.  What's disappointing to me
> about Zizek's choice is that it feels like a missed
> opportunity, that he let being stifle becoming when
> he could have used being to launch becoming.
> Fred


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