From: LANDERS123-AT-aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:17:15 EDT Subject: Re: [postanarchism] Zizek Sells Out to Abercrombie and Fitch In a message dated 7/15/03 11:11:51 AM, spencerpdx-AT-yahoo.com writes: << one cannot "become" within the spectacle. you are giving aesthetics ontological priviledge, even when they oppress human activity. this is not morality, although it may be a form of ethics. go read Debord. >> Spencerpdx, I understand ethics as a continuum. One direction (being increasingly interfering with becoming) is toward an absolute case of what Freud calls repetition compulsion, or acting out, and this may also be what you are calling spectacle or aesthetics. The other direction is toward being supporting becoming. You may be saying that to the degree someone is acting out (compulsively repeating) they are not becoming. I would, of course, agree since that is true by definition. Thanks for "go read Debord." That's so cute. I get this image of a little kid being pushed away by a big, adult hand. Fred
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