Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:46:46 -0500 (CDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?eduardo=20enriquez?= <eduardofenriquez-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: postmodern critique of post structuralism Re: [postanarchism] Reynolds: "Mille Plateaux: The Rhizomatic Music of Frankfurt, Germany" --- "J.M. Adams" <ringfingers-AT-yahoo.com> escribió: > Mille Plateaux: The Rhizomatic Music of Frankfurt, > Germany > > by Simon Reynolds > > (taken without permission from the wire 146, april > 1996) Today, the > Frankfurt School is mostly remembered for its snooty > attitude towards popular culture, which it regarded > as > the 20th century's opiate-of-the-people, a > soul-degrading inferior to High Modernism. Adorno in > particular has achieved a dubious immortality in the > Cultural Studies world, as an Aunt Sally figure > ritually bashed by academics as a prequel to their > semiotic readings of 'anti-hegemonic resistance' > encoded in Madonna videos and star trek. > There's no denying Adorno deserves derision for his > infamously suspect comments about the "eunuch-like > sound" of jazz, whose secret message was "give up > your > masculinity, let yourself be castrated... and you > will > be accepted into a fraternity which shares the > mystery > of impotence with you". since i dont know exactly whats the frankfurt school definition of popular culture i will not take issue with them but i think is very important to make the distinction between "popular culture" of the kind of things like backstreet boys or britiney spears which really will exemplyfy what they mean by "culture industry" and what is also called "popular culture" such as for example traditional folk songs and rhythms. it is here that it is useful the use of the terms "popular culture" for culture created by comunities without the imposition be it by religious or political hierarchy or of course by Capital; and "mass culture" which will be of course Capital in populistic costume in order to do what it most basicalyy does and wants to keep doing, grow and expand. i have the suspicion that in the USA and the industrialized world or what using the fredric jameson definition of "postmodernism", will be the world where postmodernity arrived, there seems that one cant really speak anymore of folk music. for this it will most important that the disticntion be made. now of course with things like punk, trance or say death metal theres a dilemma since if at the begining they might appear as close to representing the cultural manifestation of comunities perhaps initially even manifestating themselves diametrically opposed to the dictates of Capital (music industry, "corporate rock", etc) there will occur a massification due to communications and of course the transnationalism of capital. it is the situation of seeing a diference between a Washington D.C. listener of Minor Threat in the early 80s who even had the chance of going to their concerts and seeing the band very close being able to sing the songs with them and dance almost ritually in the place ("moshpit")(not too diferently from the situation of say someone belonging to an african tribe listening to drums beating in the spot and dancing with them)and of course un sudamericano fan del "punk" como yo que le gusta "minor threat" only being able to have contact with the music using cd players. > Influenced by post-structuralist theory and named > after a gargantuan tract by French philosophers > Gilles > Deleuze and Felix Guattari, Mille Plateaux release > deconstruction electronica. Situating their activity > both within and against the genre conventions of > post-rave styles like Intelligent Techno, House, > Jungle and TripHop, Mille Plateaux identify these > musics' premature closures and seize their missed > opportunities. The results may not offer the easy > satisfactions of less ambitious Techno > labels/auteurs, > but they do constitute the most consistently > stimulating catalogue in the post-rave universe. there is good basis for saying as Alec callinicos did in "againts postmodernism" with respect to "post-structuralism" as seeing it as too much focused on finding "new ways" "breaking limits" "transgression" etc and having as main enemy enclosing, limits, etc to see it as another modernist movement. and especially gilles deleuse in his philosophical rhetoric seems to me the most modernist of all the three "giants of poststructuralism" (foucalt too busy with history and derrida just "deconstructing" but apparently not interesting in constructing again ). anyway i will be very interested in a "deleuzian" post-structuralist view on say indians living in the amazon jungle who have been doing things the same way for centuries who wish to remain that way or say heavy metallers who dont want to do nothing else than recycle Iron Maiden. deleuzianism is too much influenced by nietzchesian vitalism to be reconciled with a legitimate conservatism in my view due to the non-presence of hierarchical mediation and of the proved sustaintability on the self fullfilling reproduction of life without afecting other lives significantly. personally i think this aspect of deleuzianism is because of him being, of the three "giants" of postructuralism, the least influenced by Heidegger. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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