File spoon-archives/postanarchism.archive/postanarchism_2003/postanarchism.0311, message 18


Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:10:20 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Larry Mintz" <kabir-AT-CITENET.NET>
Subject: Re: [postanarchism] fuck you no ickeans on this list


 
 ,
 
>Calling someone a "Jew sympathizer" or saying they "are probably Jewish" is
an obviously anti-Semitic
>statement, no matter what the context.
I agree.

>If you can't see that then you need to reexamine not only your own
preconceptions about other kinds of people but >also the kind of world that
we live in more generally.

Yeah I could see this.
 
>You suggest that its excusable to make remarks of that sort because "maybe
they were responding to the idea
>that all biggest bankers are Jews and some of the richest powerful family
are Jewish". But here you are
>already buying into the anti-Semitic worldview which seeks to obscure the
operations of power behind a
>paranoid and ill-conceived conspiracy theory. 

I never said  I bought into the idea. Some of richest bankers might be
Jewish, but even if they that is 
no means to hate them because of thier religion. This makes you a bigot. 
One of the families
he goes against are the Rothchilds. An interesting link on Icke's site
explains this:


>We don't  live in a world 'controlled by Israel' and Jewish people, we live
in a world controlled by America and
WASP people (even Israel was created and maintained largely for anti-Semitic
reasons with British and
American funds, see Stephen Shalom's writings for more on that). Yeah that
seems to kind mirror
this link:
      http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles3/plot.html

I'll check his stuff out. Yeah I agree that America is probably the  800
pound gorilla. I passed the article
US as Empire to a friend and he thought the author was out to lunch, and
passed off a quote about Icke
stating that certain rich powerful families control the nation's leaders. He
told me they are real 800 pound
gorillas.  On  Icke's sight there is an article that states George Bush's
grandpa  was Hitler sympathiser.



 >One of the best examples of this is Max Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and
the Spirit of Capitalism" where
><snip>, are overwhelmingly  Protestant".

Makes sense.
 
. >I already pointed out that Icke has been a promoter of the Nazi
propaganda document the Protocols
>of the Elders of Zion (in which he replaces Jews with "reptiles") 
This is have to check out.


We can definately move on.   I just find Icke's stuff way out and fun to
read.  
My general rule for reading  and seeing stuff on the net believe on 35 % and
check the rest out.

Larry

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