Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:10:20 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Larry Mintz" <kabir-AT-CITENET.NET> Subject: Re: [postanarchism] fuck you no ickeans on this list , >Calling someone a "Jew sympathizer" or saying they "are probably Jewish" is an obviously anti-Semitic >statement, no matter what the context. I agree. >If you can't see that then you need to reexamine not only your own preconceptions about other kinds of people but >also the kind of world that we live in more generally. Yeah I could see this. >You suggest that its excusable to make remarks of that sort because "maybe they were responding to the idea >that all biggest bankers are Jews and some of the richest powerful family are Jewish". But here you are >already buying into the anti-Semitic worldview which seeks to obscure the operations of power behind a >paranoid and ill-conceived conspiracy theory. I never said I bought into the idea. Some of richest bankers might be Jewish, but even if they that is no means to hate them because of thier religion. This makes you a bigot. One of the families he goes against are the Rothchilds. An interesting link on Icke's site explains this: >We don't live in a world 'controlled by Israel' and Jewish people, we live in a world controlled by America and WASP people (even Israel was created and maintained largely for anti-Semitic reasons with British and American funds, see Stephen Shalom's writings for more on that). Yeah that seems to kind mirror this link: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles3/plot.html I'll check his stuff out. Yeah I agree that America is probably the 800 pound gorilla. I passed the article US as Empire to a friend and he thought the author was out to lunch, and passed off a quote about Icke stating that certain rich powerful families control the nation's leaders. He told me they are real 800 pound gorillas. On Icke's sight there is an article that states George Bush's grandpa was Hitler sympathiser. >One of the best examples of this is Max Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism" where ><snip>, are overwhelmingly Protestant". Makes sense. . >I already pointed out that Icke has been a promoter of the Nazi propaganda document the Protocols >of the Elders of Zion (in which he replaces Jews with "reptiles") This is have to check out. We can definately move on. I just find Icke's stuff way out and fun to read. My general rule for reading and seeing stuff on the net believe on 35 % and check the rest out. Larry --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- This message may have contained attachments which were removed. Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---
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