Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:39:07 -0800 (PST) From: spencer <spencerpdx-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: [postanarchism] re: New Anarchist Studies group the problem, of course, is not that the ideas come out all that different in the wash - rather, it is that autonomous marxists are still tightly tied into the whole marxist cult. everything always has to come back to marx, everything must always be justified in marxist terms. if you're not a marxist, its an infuriating discussion, and quite pointless as well. i watch some of the more-well-known marxists who teach at my school jump through hoops to try & make marxism "fit" the contemporary left, and it's just kinda sad. also, i don't find it helpful to "engage" with them - not because i don't like their ideas, but rather because you just get drawn back into the marx vortex - which i always thought was an intellectual straight jacket. it's not that it's never interesting, it's just that marxism doesn't play well with other children. it has to own the game. that's why people ignore the more palatable forms, in my opinion. *spencer Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:41:27 +1100 From: "dr.woooo" <dr.woooo-AT-nomasters.org> Subject: [postanarchism] re: New Anarchist Studies group it strikes me as strange that there is this effort to bring the radical edge of poststructuralism/postmodernist theory and anarchism together and to discount or ignore other 'anti-state, anti-capitalist/anti-authoritarian' theories, like the broad school of radical thought like autonomous-marxism. surely these theories and groups informed by it deserve more attention or acknowledgement. hardt / negri are only a small section that has been influenced by both autonomous-marxist thought and poststructuralism/postmodernism forinstance a group http://raan.yardapes.net/pn/html/ and a resource http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/aut_html/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/
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