File spoon-archives/postanarchism.archive/postanarchism_2003/postanarchism.0311, message 91


Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:39:07 -0800 (PST)
From: spencer <spencerpdx-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: [postanarchism] re: New Anarchist Studies group


the problem, of course, is not that the ideas come out
all that different in the wash - rather, it is that
autonomous marxists are still tightly tied into the
whole marxist cult. everything always has to come back
to marx, everything must always be justified in
marxist terms. if you're not a marxist, its an
infuriating discussion, and quite pointless as well. i
watch some of the more-well-known marxists who teach
at my school jump through hoops to try & make marxism
"fit" the contemporary left, and it's just kinda sad.

also, i don't find it helpful to "engage" with them -
not because i don't like their ideas, but rather
because you just get drawn back into the marx vortex -
which i always thought was an intellectual straight
jacket. it's not that it's never interesting, it's
just that marxism doesn't play well with other
children. it has to own the game.

that's why people ignore the more palatable forms, in
my opinion.

*spencer

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:41:27 +1100
From: "dr.woooo" <dr.woooo-AT-nomasters.org>
Subject: [postanarchism] re: New Anarchist Studies
group

it strikes me as strange that there is this effort to
bring the radical edge of
poststructuralism/postmodernist theory and anarchism
together and to 
discount or ignore other 'anti-state,
anti-capitalist/anti-authoritarian' theories, like 
the broad school of radical thought like
autonomous-marxism. surely 
these 
theories and groups informed by it deserve more
attention or 
acknowledgement. 
hardt / negri are only a small section that has been
influenced by both 
autonomous-marxist thought and
poststructuralism/postmodernism

forinstance a group 

http://raan.yardapes.net/pn/html/

and a resource
http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/aut_html/

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