File spoon-archives/postanarchism.archive/postanarchism_2004/postanarchism.0401, message 22


Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:12:59 -0600 (CST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?eduardo=20enriquez?= <eduardofenriquez-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [postanarchism]-AT-ism & markets/De Landa interview


 --- keir <keir-AT-chumba.demon.co.uk> escribió: > I've
found this a good interview on
> markets/anti-markets and just how 
> silly Delanda gets when he tries to separate Deleuze
> and Guatarri 
> from Marx. Protrevi really nails Delanda for staying
> on the level of 
> exchange and refusing to deal with production. Yet
> Protrevi is very 
> influenced by Delanda's connection of Deleuze to
> complexity theory.
> Protrevi's website is really useful; loads of
> reading guides. 
> 

I believe that the main task for today's left is to
create a new 
political
economy (the resources are all there: Max Weber, T.B.
Veblen and the 
old
institutionalists, John Kenneth Galbraith, Fernand
Braudel, some of the 
new
institutionalists, like Douglass North; redefinitions
of the market, 
like
those
of Herbert Simon etc) based as you acknowledged
before, on a 
non-equilibrium
view of the matter? But how can we do this if we
continue to believe 
that
Marxists got it right, that it is just a matter of
tinkering with the 
basic
ideas? At any rate, concepts like "mode of production"
do not fit a 
flat
ontology of individuals as far as I can tell. 

INDEED IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOURSELF FOCUSED ON THE
INDIVIDUAL. SEEMS RATHER THE POINT HERE IS TO ARGUE
FOR A SMALL CAPITALIST UTOPIA OF THE SORT ADAM SMITH
IS FOR AND ONE WHICH SEEMS THE "ANARCHISM" OF AMERICAN
GREENS AND THE GREEN PARTY IS FOR. ON THIS ONE SHOULD
DEFINITELY READ C.WRIGHT MILLS WHERE HE ROMANTIZICES A
SUPPOSEDLY FREE AND DEMOCRATIC USA THAT EXISTED IN THE
19TH CENTURY BEFORE THE APPEAREANCE OF CORPORATIONS
AND WHEN CENTRAL GOVERNMENT WASNT AS STRONG BUT ENDS
UP FACING THE REALITY OF THE INSIGHT OF MARX ON THIS
KIND OF THOUGHT WHICH WAS ELABORATED AGAINTS PROUDHOM
(THE INDIVIDUALIST ANARCHISTS IDOL) AND OF COURSE IT
WAS THAT THIS WOULD END UP NESSESARELY IN MONOPOLIES.
WHAT MAKES THIS POSSIBLE IS THE FACILITATION OF
CIRCULATION AND ACCUMULATION OF VALUES THAT MONEY
ENABLES MAINLY BUT NOT ON ITSELF BUT IN A COMBINATION
WITH MARKETS AND A STATE TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS.
THIS ARE THE SOCIAL DEMOCRATS OF ANARCHISM.

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