File spoon-archives/postanarchism.archive/postanarchism_2004/postanarchism.0403, message 12


Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:25:33 -0800 (PST)
From: villon sasha k <il_frenetico-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: [postanarchism] re: The Agreement of Zizek and Katsiafiacas on Multiculturalism


In your post you said: "Here are two quotes from Zizek
which absolutely concur with Katsiaficas arguments
about both the need for coexistence with Islamic
'fundamentalism'" 

This is what my response was disagreeing with, that
Zizek "absolutely concurs" with K's argument about the
need for coexistence with Islamic fundamentalism.  
You say you offer textual evidence for this, but the
text you put forward *does not say that at all*.  

Now you say: "Admittedly, Zizek is not
calling for 'simple' coexistence" with Islamic
fundamentalism....   Again, *nowhere in the text you
quote does he call for coexistence with Islamic
fundamentalism in any way*.  As I said, he is critical
of the usage of the term by liberal capitalism as a
ideological support of its project.  But that is a far
cry from calling for "coexistence", just as Badiou's
indifference to difference is a far cry from an
argument for respect for difference.  There simply is
no "absolute" concurance between Zizek's position and
K's.      

My point is that you have offered no "direct textual
evidence" that Zizek calls for such a coexistence with
Islamic fundamentalism.  You ask me to provide textual
evidence of this; well, I would just refer everybody
back to the texts you quoted, a careful reading of
which will show he does not call for such coexistence
at all.
  

I think once we get into Badiou we will see that his
position is very different from the "respect for
difference"/"coexistence with Islamic fundamentalism"
position; we will see that his main target is a
politics based on the "repect for difference"; we will
see that, like Zizek, for Badiou the choice between
"respect for difference" and totalitarianism is a
false choice put forward by liberal capitalism; we
could also note that both he and Zizek see
post-structuralism and American Cultural Studies as
complicit in this ideology; and, finally, we will see
that he is not calling for a "more radical
multiculturalism" in the least.  But, as I said
earlier, I will post on Badiou soon.

best,
   sasha  

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