Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:25:33 -0800 (PST) From: villon sasha k <il_frenetico-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: [postanarchism] re: The Agreement of Zizek and Katsiafiacas on Multiculturalism In your post you said: "Here are two quotes from Zizek which absolutely concur with Katsiaficas arguments about both the need for coexistence with Islamic 'fundamentalism'" This is what my response was disagreeing with, that Zizek "absolutely concurs" with K's argument about the need for coexistence with Islamic fundamentalism. You say you offer textual evidence for this, but the text you put forward *does not say that at all*. Now you say: "Admittedly, Zizek is not calling for 'simple' coexistence" with Islamic fundamentalism.... Again, *nowhere in the text you quote does he call for coexistence with Islamic fundamentalism in any way*. As I said, he is critical of the usage of the term by liberal capitalism as a ideological support of its project. But that is a far cry from calling for "coexistence", just as Badiou's indifference to difference is a far cry from an argument for respect for difference. There simply is no "absolute" concurance between Zizek's position and K's. My point is that you have offered no "direct textual evidence" that Zizek calls for such a coexistence with Islamic fundamentalism. You ask me to provide textual evidence of this; well, I would just refer everybody back to the texts you quoted, a careful reading of which will show he does not call for such coexistence at all. I think once we get into Badiou we will see that his position is very different from the "respect for difference"/"coexistence with Islamic fundamentalism" position; we will see that his main target is a politics based on the "repect for difference"; we will see that, like Zizek, for Badiou the choice between "respect for difference" and totalitarianism is a false choice put forward by liberal capitalism; we could also note that both he and Zizek see post-structuralism and American Cultural Studies as complicit in this ideology; and, finally, we will see that he is not calling for a "more radical multiculturalism" in the least. But, as I said earlier, I will post on Badiou soon. best, sasha ====------------- Anarchist Discussion Board -- Also for response to KKA, WD and Aporia: http://pub47.ezboard.com/banarchykka The Killing King Abacus Page: http://www.geocities.com/kk_abacus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com
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