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From: umptyre-AT-riseup.net
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [postanarchism] Re: bataille



> surrealism: i dont care much for surrealism.

bunuel? the chicago group? vernacular surrealism? surre(gion)alism?
carrington? nothing of value in the whole diverse lot?

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> the 'best' of them were
> dropouts-- bataille, dali, artaud..

dali the fascist/royalist?!

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> both of whom are rather sadsack existentialists, imo.

how do you figure? (and what the hell does "sadsack" mean?)

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> but no real joy

what about the joy of horror?

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> there is never an escape from
> decline, utility, reason,

what about "the bird of the woods & the solitude of the forest?"

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> sure he can write a nice phrase but so what,

isn't poetry a bit more than a nice phrase?
poet as seer (gilbert-lecomte)?
poet as sensitive brute (the beats)?
poetry as yoga?

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> surrealist madlibs style

madlibs? what about ernst's alchemy?

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> essay 'energumen capitalism' or the whole of 'libidinal economy' can be
> read as a counter to bataille.

okay, here you have my interest. can you talk about this?

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> bataille is a
> depressed anthropologist.

i see him more as a deranged librarian or a perverted monk.

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> why should we be content with the 'boldness' of his bad faith??

well, i don't know. it's good enough for bjork, innit?

cheers,
- daniil o. steere


   

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