Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:42:35 +1000 Subject: Re: Why Throw Americans Out of Middle East... by Taliban At the risk of being branded pro-American and pro-Jew and pro-Christian, I want to make a few comments to the post by Taliban. Please pardon my lack of appropriate jargon. I agree that "the postcolonial is about attending to the social and political >processes that struggle against and work to unsettle the architecture of >domination established through imperialism" But I do not agree with and do not feel there is any benefit to be gained by continuing with the various dichotomies by Nationalities, colour, race etc .... for want of better terminology ... "deterministically essential" by these markers. For to do so would lead to the conclusion that one is conquered and the opressed becomes the oppressor and the dichotomy starts all over again. I am of the view that the strategy being pursued will only lead to continuation of the binary oppositions. WIthin my own work I am experimenting with the notions of Lefreve's (Soja) thirdspaces and Wilden's "both and." I posit these two strategies not as compromises of the various positions of the contestation but as alternate perceptions or conceptions (not quite sure) criticing to underlying assumptions of the constitutions of the various groups (e.g. are all Christians, Jews, American such horrible people and all Muslims good?), contexts, concepts, value systems and ways of doing. I realise in my work that a lot of this is abstract and appear to be non-pragmatic but I feel out of theoretical framings line this could come so more lasting solutions to the contestations and conflicts rather than the strategy that has been used up to now wher the dominant is replaced by the dominator etct etc. I realise that this maybe detract from the realities ... comments. Richard , then what Taliban has to say >against the Americans, against Israel and Judaism, about Islam and Saudi >Arabia, is at least as relevant to this list as are discussions over >who's the bigger asshole, Naipaul or Theroux. > >David... > > >10. Why throw Americans out of Middle .......................... by >Taliban > > by > Taliban > Why throw Americans out of Middle East > > > From: Info Times > > What is the Gulf crisis? Why are the American and Jewish troops >encamped > around this sacred area? Why are the Muslim leaders calling the >presence > of the Christian and Jewish troops, in the holy land, a >deep, > well-planned conspiracy against Islam and the Islamic world? Why >has > America, the arch enemy of the Muslims, accepted the >responsibility of > protecting their holy sites? > > The 'police man' of the world, America, when it took no action to >stop > the inhuman, shocking atrocities being committed against the >Muslims in > Bosnia, in Kashmir, how did it, with its massive war machinery, >latest > weapons of mass destruction, formidable air and ground force >arrive in > Saudi Arabia, overnight, at a single request from the Saudi rulers? >Why > are its troops still encamped there, in the sweltering heat >and > inclement weather of the region? > > They buildup of its massive troops around the two holy cities, a >defence > against which threatening danger, a deterrent to which human >rights > violation? To find out the answers to all these questions it >will be > necessary to study the geographical importance, the >religious > significance of Saudi Arabia and its influence upon the >international > economic and financial system. An effort has been made, through >this > article to make the Muslims aware of a Zionist conspiracy, the net >which > is gradually being drawn around them. > > It is now time for the Muslims either to come to their senses >or be > ready to be destroyed forever; either to wake up from their >sleep of > apathy, destroy the evil conspiracies against them, wipe their >enemies > off the face of the earth or be prepared to face the wrath of >Allah > Taala, wait for the day when Allah shall remove them from this world >and > bring others in their place, who instead of being immersed in a >life of > luxury shall be ever ready to sacrifice their lives for the >protection > of Allah`s Deen and their own holy cities. > > > The importance of Saudi Arabia > > Since the beginning of creation, Saudi Arabia has held >great > significance for many reasons and its importance and superiority >over > the rest of the countries of the world shall continue till the >Day of > Qiyamah. First so the religious aspect. The major religious of >the > world, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, etc. were sent down in this >region, > and from here spread throughout the world. Notable prophets were >sent > down towards the people of this land. All four holy books, and >most of > the heavenly scriptures were sent down from heaven to this country. > > This land saw great empires, the ruins of which can still he >found > scattered here. For these and many other reasons this land is >sacred to > the Muslims and the Christians and Jews as well. Besides the holy >sites > of the Muslims, the places held sacred by the Jews and >Christians > themselves are found in this part of the world too. > > Since the very beginning the Jews have had designs upon this area >and > have desired to gain control over certain parts and create a >Zionist > state there. The two blue stripes shown in the national flag of >Israel, > stand for the River Nile and the River Tigris, considered by the >Jews to > be the boundaries of their state. The Jews had been trying to >establish > a purely Jewish state in the area between these two rivers for ages. >But > the rejected people, disobedient to the laws of Allah Taala, >insolent > towards His prophets, had had no success in their aims until >the > cowardice of the Muslims, their renunciation of Jihaad, enabled >these > unclean people to get their clutches into the land of Palestine. > > In short, the establishment of Israel in this limited area, was >the > first step of the Jews towards the creation of an extensive >Zionist > empire. Now, with the onslaught of the western troops upon the Gulf, >the > stage is set for the last decisive battle. > > > Part 2: > > A Jew or a Christian is always commander of the troops of >western > countries which are stationed in Saudia Arabia and the nearly >countries, > on one pretext or another. The majority of the troops themselves >are > Christians, Jews and Mulhids. Their arrogance is such that not >even a > high-ranking Saudi Officials is allowed to enter their military >bases or > settlements. > > An incidence has already been published by the international media >of a > Saudi officer who was dismissed by the Saudi government at the >request > of the Americans, because he was found arguing with security >officer of > an American base, who had denied him entry. All these military bases >are > directly under the command of the Americans, fully self-governing >and > answerable to none. Is this an attitude of a force which has only >been > summoned to guard a country? > > The massive build-up of their troops and weapons, their immense land >and > air-force is claiming loud and clear that their presence in >Saudia is > not merely as a deterrent to Saddam, but a part of deep, >dangerous > conspiracy. For if a defence against the imaginary danger of Saddam >was > really the object, then the troops should have been stationed near >the > border of Iraq. What does their presence, thousands of miles >away, in > the heart of Saudi Arabia, in Jaddah and Taif, within a few >kilometres > of the Haram, mean? Even if we suppose that the holy sites of >Saudia > Arabia were threatened by Saddam, were Bahram, Oman, and >Egypt, > thousands of miles away threatened by him too? Why have American >bases > been set up in Qatar and Musqat? To confront one danger, is >another > greater danger invited to one's house? Is Saddam more dangerous than >the > cunning and dirty Jews, the bigoted Christians? When Saddam keeps >the > doors of Kofa and Baghdad open for all the Muslims of the world, >would > be forbid them the Hajj of BaitulLah, the pilgrimage of >Haram-e-Nabavi > SallalLahu 'Alayhi Wasallam? > > Actually the Saudia was not in any danger it was the Saudi rulers >and > their government which felt threatened. The threat too was imaginary >and > false, created by the deceiving Jews. They showed deceptive >satellite > pictures to the Saudi rulers, which indicating an imminent attack >upon > their country by Saddam Husain. These pictures were created into >such a > monster that the Saudi rulers were given no time to think, to >consult > other Muslim countries, ask for their assistance. Without giving >them > tune even to think, thousands of troops and latest weapons were >brought > over to Saudi Arabia overnight. And it is the height of craftiness >and > deceit that the Muslims are being made to pay all the expenses of >these > troops! Has the sky ever been a witness to such a lamentable, >deplorable > scene? > > Observe the simplicity of the Muslims Behold the cunning of the >others > too. It is no longer a secret now that on their arrival in >Saudia > Arabia, the Jewish troops held celebrations in Khyber. Their rabbis >made > speeches, dishes prepared with ham were eaten, wine flowed freely. >Not > only that but all the Jews of the world celebrated that day for >having > avenged their humiliating defeat of a thousand years ago. O >Muslims! > heirs of the conqueror of Khyber, where is your sense of honour >and > shame? The Sahaba-e-Kiraam whose feet thundered over the fort of >Khyber, > what must their souls have felt, are your rusted hearts aware of >it? Do > you offer your Salat, keep fasts for this day only when the dirty >feet > of the Jews trample under their feet those places which were >conquered > by your illustrious ancestors at the cost of their lives, and you >sit at > home as mere spectators! Rise ! take up your arms and be ready to >fight > the Kuffar, or your Salat will be of no use, rolled up in a dirty >rag, > they will be thrown in your faces. The Ka'abah towards which you >turn > your faces while offering Salt, when that is in danger, of what use >are > your prostrations? Allah has no need of them. > > The Prophet SallalLahu 'Alayhi Wasallam upon whom you send Durood, >when > the Kuffar are within a few miles of his sacred Raudhah, will >your > continuous offering of Durood, be considered wise, a sign of your >love > and obedience or mere stupidity and cowardice? The last Wasiyyah of >your > Holy Prophet SallalLahu `Alayhi Wasallam was "Expel the Jews >and > Christians from the land of Arabia. This command was for those >Kuffar > who were born Arabs, who had been living here through the >centuries. > When their existence, without Islam, could not be tolerated, how can >the > dirty, unclean Mushrikeen, citizens of Britain and America the >homes of > Kufr, be invited to stay here? When they were not allowed to stay in >the > deserts and the far-flung corners of Arabia, how can they be >provided > permanent bases on the outskirts of the two holy cities? > > When they could not live as shepherds, paying Jizyah to the Muslims, >how > can they arrogantly walk about in the holy land? Can it >really be > believed that these enemies of Allah have come here to protect >His > house? Can any save person believe that the deceitful people >who > conspired to murder the Holy Prophet SallalLahu Alayhi Wasallam, >who > succeeded in putting poison in his food, have after his death >repented, > and travelling across thousands of miles are bearing hardships just >for > the sake of protecting his sacred shrine, his Raudhah-e-Mubarak? > > Is there no Muslim in the entire world who is capable of guarding >his > religious, sacred sites? Are true men and Mujahids no longer been >born > among the Muslims? Have the Muslim women stopped giving birth to >male > children, that they are now begging their eternal foes to protect >them? > Your true book itself has made it clear upon you that the Jews and >the > Christians are your worst and eternal enemies, don't make >friends of > them. These people can never be your well-wishers proclaims your >holy > Book, O Muslims Yet you have gone even further. Let alone >making > friends, you are bent upon making them your guardians, your >protectors > and your allies? Do you really believe that their temperament, >their > natural disposition has changed? > > Remember, the nature of a thing does not changes. Never will a >snake > give up biting, a scorpion stinging; except that it were de-fanged, >and > the sting of the scorpion removed. In the same way, the Jews will >never > give up their enemity towards the Muslims, until the yoke of >Jizyah is > put around their necks. And Jizyah can only be collected through >Jihaad. > The nation which entrusts the protection of its sacred >sites to > non-Muslims, how cant it wage Jihaad against them? How can it >possibly > collect Jizyah from these non-Muslims? If at the time of >Saddam's > attack, Saudia did not have an army, then when Saddam Husain with >the > intentions of plundering the oil wealth of Kuwait, could get ready >one > million young men within a single year, can't Saudi Arabia, for >its > legitimate defence purposes prepare a few platoons even after >eight > years? > > The Arab Mujahideen who taught a lesson to the Russians, who make >the > Afghan communists acknowledge their superiority, wouldn't they have >put > a noose around the necks of Saddam's supporters? Instead of >seeking > their help, why does? Those who bestow the titles of Mujahids and >heroes > upon those who fought the Russian Kuffar, why do they brand >those > fighting against the American Kuffar, as terrorists? Are the >Americans > less filthy Kafirs, than the Russians? > > > Part 3: > > Fighting against the Russians is a Fardh-e-Ayn, merely talking >against > the Americans is Haraam? Was Afghanistan more holy a place than >the > Haramayn, that the Mujahids going to fight there had their >photographs > published in Saudi papers, were given a 60 per cent >discount in > air-fare, while those who stood up to guard the holy cities >were > threatened with extradition on rigorous imprisonment? Conceded that >the > unchecked, autocratic rule of the noble leaders is threatened by >the > Mujahideen, what about the other Muslim countries of the world, >like > Pakistan, whose troops are the best-equipped in the world, who are >ready > to lay down their lives for the protection of their countries, >don't > they have enough religious spirit to protect the house of Allah? > > There do exist such Muslim countries in the world whose troops, >for > their memorable services, their splendid military traditions >are > considered to be military powers of the highest rank in the >world; > depraving these states the honour of guarding the holy cities and >giving > it to the foul-smelling, dirty Kuffar, whose very presence >probably > fills the angels with disgust, what kind of a justice is that? How >come > monumental expenses of the non-Muslim troops are being borne to >the > extent that they are even being provided wine, women and pork >for > guarding the holy cities, while this duty is being denied to >the > Pakistani troops who are willing to work at a meagre pay, nay are >ready > to render this duty even without any pay, but just as an >honour a > service in the way of Allah? > > The non-Muslims are filling their treasures with the wealth robbed >from > the Muslims and our Muslim brothers are forced to beg for loans >from > this same plundered wealth. America requires fifty million >dollars > yearly for the upkeep of its troops. If Saudia were to given >even a > hundredth art of this amount to Pakistan, then not only would all >the > defence budget be met but an exceptional bond of brotherhood and >unity > among the Islamic countries would appear. > > The truth is that the non-Muslim troops have neither arrived to >protect > the holy cities nor will they leave when the danger of attack >from > Saddam is over. When Shah Faisal can be murdered, the planes of >General > Zia-ul-Haq and other top-ranking military leaders can be >blown to > pieces, a bomb can be planted in `AbdulLah Izam's path, >American > commandos can sniff around the world like dogs, in search of >Yousuf > Ramzi and Aimal Kansi, a special CIA cell can be set up for the >arrest > of the distinguished, revered Arab Mujahid, Osama Bin Laden, then >is it > difficult for America to dispose of Saddam Husain? > > How come America, which is determined to either buy off its >adversaries > in the world or to dispose of them, it cannot end the mischief of >Saddam > Husain once and forever? Are its secret agencies, its >highly-trained > commandos so weak and helpless that they cannot end he perfidy of >one > because of whom its troops, in such massive numbers, are forced to >camp > in the burning deserts so far from home? Isn't it possible that >the > bogey of Saddam has been created by America itself? whenever >America > needs to deploy its forces, stock pile its weapons, or increase the >war > expenses of its troops it winds up this robotic bogey ad >threatened by > its fierce roar, its intimidating blood-shot eyes, the Saudis bow >down > into obeying every kind of demand made in accordance with the >directives > of Pentagon. When the demand has been met, the Americans put this >Saddam > genii back into a bottle, bury it in an underground palace-cellar, >to be > used in future emergencies. > > Had the American troops any intention of returning home, Shah >Fahad's > brother Tallal Bin 'Abdul 'Azeez wouldn't have told the BBC >during an > interview " The American troops will not return even if we ask them >to." > These words of a highly responsible, Saudi emir should be enough to >open > the eyes of the Muslims all over the world. They would realize that >the > America against whom they chant slogans, whom they wish to >destroy to > pieces, revealing the height of its evil and loathsome nature, has >now > infiltrated their holiest land. The hated enemy, whom they >nurtured > thoughts of confronting, has now entered their own land. The Heaven >now > wants to see whether, repeating the history of their >honourable > ancestors, the Muslims now crush the pride-filled, arrogant >heads of > these Kuffar under their feet, or indulging in a luxurious and >sinful > lie they come to the worst possible end they deserve. > > The people who believe the intentions of America to be good should >give > some deep thought to this item of news broadcast by the >world > communication media some time ago-when President Clinton paid a >visit to > boost the morale of the American troops stationed in Saudia, >then > instead of visiting the Saudi leader first as demanded by >established > international diplomatic norms, he landed straight at the US >military > base in Hafar al Batin. Then instead of accepting the >governor of > Riyadh's offer of hospitality, he summoned the governor to >his > residence. Is he the British viceroy, being repeated again with >just > some slight changes in names and places? > > The first reason for the Jews and Christians interest in the >Arabian > peninsula has thus been explained. Now we come to the second >reason, > which is geographical in nature. Saudi Arabia is situated in the >heart > of the world. The most important sea routes pass by it. Whoever >controls > Arabia is considered to be in control of nearly all the most >important > transit routes of the world. On one side is the Arabian Gulf under >which > flows 62 to 75 per cent of all world oil. The oil, the main >artery on > which depends all the progress of the modern world, all the >military, > economic and political power of the western countries. On another >side > is the Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean, flanked by the Gulf of Oman on >the > eastern side and Gulf of Aden on the west. This entire area is the >sea > passage of the East and West, the universal highway of world trade >and > every kind of transportation. > > On the other side of Saudi Arabia lies the Red Sea which is the >deriding > line between the Asian Continent and the Continent of Africa. On >the > third lies the Mediterranean Sea, with Syria, Lebanon and Egypt >lying > along is coast. Opposite the Mediterranean is found the >European > Continent. The island-like Saudi Arabia lies strategically between >these > immense areas of land. Trade between these continents and sea >voyages > are not possible without passing across it. If someone would >undertake a > sea journey to Europe and America from Asia, without crossing the >Red > Sea, he would have to arrive at the Gulf of Aden, sail along the >coasts > of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania and Mozambique, touch the furthest >point of > land, the southern-most tip of the African continent, Cape Town and >from > there turn towards his destination reaching it after a >journey of > several months across thousands of miles. > > > Part 4: > > If someone wanted to go to Europe and America from Asia by sea, >without > wanting to cross the Red Sea, he would have to set said from the >Gulf of > Aden, sail along the coasts of Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, and >Mozambique, > and then turning from the furthest point of land, the Southern-most >tip > of the African continent, Cape Town, and thus reach his >destination > after a journey of several months across thousands of miles. The >cost > and time consumed by such a journey would not make his business >venture > profitable, but a disastrous loss. On the other hand, if the Red >Sea is > used, then entering the Gulf of Aden at Bab ul Mandeb and Dij >bouti, > passing by Jaddah and Yenbo through the Suez Canal, the >Mediterranean > can be easily reached. > > The coastal cities of Europe lie along the Mediterranean. >Turkey, > Greece, Italy, Albania, France and Spain all lie along the >Mediterranean > coast. At Spain the Mediterranean comes to an end. At this point, on >one > side lies Spain and Morocco on the other. Between them both is >the > narrow Strait of Gibraltar. Across the Strait of Gibraltar lies >the > Atlantic Ocean, on the Eastern side of which is Europe and Africa >while > America lies of the Western side. This route, just outlined is >the > shortest and the safest for those plundering Saudia's wealth and >carting > it off to Europe and America. Since the break up of the Soviet Union >and > consequent independence of the Central Asian Republics, the >reservoirs > of natural, mineral wealth, all the countries of the world are >vying > with each other to establish trade links with these Central >Asian > Republics. And this has increased the value of this sea route >manifold. > > Thus due to its strategic location, this area has become the >entre of > attention, of all the avaricious world powers. The Western >countries in > their greed for acquiring global economic supremacy, are trying >their > best to get a foot hold, to sink their teeth into Saudi >Arabia. > Inhabitants of the coldest regions of the world, these >white-skinned, > insipid people are not suffering the grilling heat of the deserts >for > the protection, progress and prosperity of the people here but are >here > to promote their own economy, to further their own national >interests. > They are well aware that in these modern times of fast trade only >those > countries can make rapid progress which have control over the >warm > waters of the world. > > According to economic experts, in the race for capital, only >that > country can take precedence over the others which can employ >the > cheapest means of transportation by sea. Without this, let alone >taking > a lead in world trade it would be extremely difficult for a >country to > maintain its economic position among the other progressive >nations of > the world. It is the deep misfortune of the Muslims that >inspite of > being the possessors of this main artery of world trade, they are >unable > to maintain total control over it and use it for the welfare ad >progress > of the Muslims of the world. This is due more to the Muslims >own > indifference to religion, disregard for Jihaad fi >SabillilLah, > mismanagement, lack of foresight, love for luxury and immorality, >rather > than to the cunningness and deceit of the non-Muslims. > > Now let us see how these global plunderers, robbers, how America and >its > menials, and the other Kuffar Western nations slowly, stealthily >gained > control of these strategic, vital sea routes, and water passageways; >how > they deprived the Muslims of these magnificent means of >income, > plundered their wealth and how with the utmost shrewdness they are >now > doling out mere pence from this plundered wealth to the Muslims in >the > form of loans on strict terms. In exchange of this loan or "aid", >these > plunderers have not only compromised the faith of the Muslims but >have > made them utterly dependent on themselves too. > > Come let us try to understand these cunning tricks of the Jews, >become > aware of their deceit, recognize their camouflaged snare with the >firm > resolve that one day we shall recover every single penny of ours >from > these usurers; split their fat flabby bellies, and retrieve >the > plundered wealth which, taking advantage of our carelessness they >have > swallowed. > > > > > --- from list postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > > -------------------------- Richard Wah Graduate School of Education University of Queensland St Lucia Brisbane 4072. Ph 61-7-33656508 Fax 61-7-33657199 Email s271338-AT-student.uq.edu.au webpage http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271338 --- from list postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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