Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:24:01 -0800
From: "Marlene R. Atleo" <maratleo-AT-island.net>
Subject: Re: et al


Thank you David

Indeed that is the issue ....
these terms need to be problemetized....
the point of these terms are essentialization....ah, the Trudeau era...I
remember it well....
And of course, the language "police" are everywhere, even theory...

sitting here on the pacific rim, north of 48 this strikes me as a very
Can'dj'n converstation...
Bram, essentializing from a theoretical/linguistic perspective....
Lisa experience caught in the cold shower of technical/political discourse
in which her experience is technically & politically a faux pas 
and "poor" David...fragmented by the rhetoric...

I recall a classmate of mine and I proudly using hand signs for "L2" the
label used to designate second language speakers in Canada/linguistics
which is equivalent to "second class" at some level...

but its an international and historic conversation, as Liz points out the
creolization...of absolutely everything/one....

of course in the midst of writing this post I moved a box on top of which
lay...Spivak's "imaginary maps"...

its the complexities that we are wanting to know about...when the binaries
are examined microscopically, specifically, where we live.....
surely we can imagine ourselves more richly...and write more richly about
ourselves.....




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