Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:33:01 +1000
Subject: Re: Black&Brown versus White criticism - a caricature



Couldnt help some thinking aloud ........

a caricature (?) - "its at the edges of discourse that ideology shows 
itself " ....a power trip (?) ..... a 'white' (what?) power trip... Is this 
nothing more than totalisation of the 'other' .. another trip...(trip) .. 
more baggage ....... 'expectation theory' (draws a chuckle) ... ( what 
about unexpected theory??) ... all translation is after all a 'pre'-text.

Steve




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From:           	"Marlene R. Atleo" <maratleo-AT-island.net>
Subject:        	Re: Black&Brown versus White criticism - a caricature
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> Some people kiss and tell and others caricature and tell......
> Some people do it in private and others need an audience..
> probably "cunning linguists" need a textual audience....
> 
> 
> but the issue of "style" is very interesting....
> style without substance is always the fate of the "other" ....expectation
> states theory suggests that even when a "white" person just lurks near a
> colored person who is making a major contribution of some sort...there is
> a very high likelihood of the attribution of the achievement to the
> non-colored....
> 
> what a power trip it must be constructing and de-constructing "others"
> into and out of "english"...translating the colonizer and the colonized as
> Memmi would say....controlling both parts of the conversation....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:46 AM 08/03/2000 +0200, you wrote:
> >Black&Brown versus White Criticism - a caricature of how others see you
> >in a debate involving gauntlets and hydrophobia. A question of style?
> >
> >***
> >
> >Black&Brown Criticism  (with the odd exception) -
> >
> >Dear Mr Dickens, being white as you keep pointing out, maybe you haven't
> >considered... Dear Mr Dickens, don't you think you may be living just a
> >bit too much in your own rather comfortable little world... Dear Mr
> >Dickens, I'm afraid what you say is quite contradictory and doesn't hold
> >water... Dear Mr Dickens, the problems in our part of the world are
> >particularly tricky, and I don't honestly think you've really grasped the
> >essence... Dear Mr Dickens, I simply can't agree with what you say, since
> >you couldn't actually have any genuine experience of...
> >
> >White Criticism - (with the odd exception) -
> >
> >Eric! I am incensed, outraged, utterly shocked and devastated by your
> >blatantly racist garbage... Eric! How dare you utter such hegemonic
> >drivel! The very fact you take up this subject proves beyond a shadow of
> >doubt that... Eric! If I had my way, cunning linguists like yourself
> >would be censored out of this and every other list. But, getting back to
> >the subject of the postprandial theory of syntactic theme narrative...
> >Eric! Flabbergasting! People like you make Alfred Rosenberg and Count
> >Gobineau look like... Eric! We ask the questions!!! How can a tediously
> >reactionary British translator like you...
> >
> >***
> >
> >Best wishes,
> >
> >Eric Dickens
> >
> >
> >
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